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  • #16
    Re: For the Boiler Boys...

    i put a power vent on a boiler like yours a few years ago. customer wanted rid of chimney. power vent wh and power vent boiler. chimney gone. also that boiler looks like it could have been converted to 24 volt from 750 millivolt. a lot of boilers look like they came over on the ark. when you get this puppy running check your water temp at the return to boiler. check if the valve is turned partially shut on the finned radiator. ................on the knee wall. well a lot older homes here had dirt cellars. so you put up several courses of block and shovel the dirt behind it. some people harden all of that with a cement slurry. ............if you are the only one doing it, well that's what i like. breid...........

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    • #17
      Re: For the Boiler Boys...

      Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
      Honestly, I don't even know how to fire the thing and put it through it's cycle.

      I want to tell them to call a "specialist" but am not aware of any here I trust to recommend.

      I also want to figure out the challenge.


      J.C.
      ok if they will pay for my flight there and back i will come and fix it ,i will also need a helper so Plumberscrack will have to come and help also
      we will need a place to stay so do you have room ,and make sure there is a lot of food in the fridge
      and i will do my part for free
      Charlie

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      • #18
        Re: For the Boiler Boys...

        Definitely check the base of the chimney for blockage.

        Without a combustion analyzer, it's nearly impossible for you to tell what's going on with the boiler while it's running.

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        • #19
          Re: For the Boiler Boys...

          Originally posted by Flux View Post
          Definitely check the base of the chimney for blockage.

          Without a combustion analyzer, it's nearly impossible for you to tell what's going on with the boiler while it's running.
          Searched around and found those to be real cheap.

          Leaning toward just staying away from it. Closest Weil Mclain listed service company from their website is 50 miles away though.

          J.C.

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          • #20
            Re: For the Boiler Boys...

            Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
            Searched around and found those to be real cheap.

            Leaning toward just staying away from it. Closest Weil Mclain listed service company from their website is 50 miles away though.

            J.C.
            If you ever do get one...look really hard at Testo they are very good.

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            • #21
              Re: For the Boiler Boys...

              Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
              ok if they will pay for my flight there and back i will come and fix it ,i will also need a helper so Plumberscrack will have to come and help also
              we will need a place to stay so do you have room ,and make sure there is a lot of food in the fridge
              and i will do my part for free
              i can't let you 2 out without a chaperon

              this time charlie, don't peel apart the porch

              rick.
              phoebe it is

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              • #22
                Re: For the Boiler Boys...

                Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post


                It's a model EG65. I've been poking around online looking at the manual. Every manual I find shows some type of damper control.

                But this installation doesn't appear to have one at all.

                J.C.
                The auto damper came std with the unit. It was there to help reduce stand by loss. Unfortunately, many of them failed so rather than replace them, they got canned which won't effect operation any but it will increase operating cost by a tad. The scorching may have been caused by a defective damper also
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                • #23
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                  I'm betting there are at least a couple dead birds causing your draft problem, and as plumberscrack said the sections are probably clogged up, that in combination with draft trouble will cause the scorching. I'd also pull the oil wick out of that B&G circulator and replace it and refill with oil.

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                  • #24
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                    Did all those leaves come from the chimney?
                    Perhaps that is why they re-vented it higher. Too bad they did not make the original opening a cleanout.

                    Sorry I'm nothere to clean that flue. I have done many where the bottom was deep with mortar s.and leaves and dead birds and squirrels.

                    I would also clean (rod) and suck outhe boiler flue passages which appear to be restricted evidenced by the spillage athe front.
                    Recently I cleaned a boiler which was about 50% clogged and it worked perfectly afterward.

                    When I do those chimneys, I tie a squirrel cage blower on its side on the top of the chimney.
                    The sky-facing intake of the blower sealed closed with ductape and the open side sucking air up the chimney. Takes all the dust and odor of dead animals up the chimney while pulling fresh clean air into the area.

                    Seal the draft diverter closed. The dust from cleaning the boiler goes up and away and I can see as I use a coat hanger wire to clean the boiler flues. (First I remove the buners and use a light and mirror ductaped to a stick to see what I'm doing.)
                    Last edited by Robert Gift; 10-15-2010, 02:06 AM.
                    I'd take an educated guess - but I'm unqualified.
                    It ain't just soot, it's paydirt.
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                    • #25
                      Re: For the Boiler Boys...

                      JC, you mention the WH in your original post but no photos of the vent or how it ties in.
                      "When we build let us think we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work that our descendants will thank us for, and let us think, as we lay stone upon stone, that a time is to come when these stones will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, "See! This our fathers did for us."
                      John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)

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                      • #26
                        Re: For the Boiler Boys...

                        Originally posted by Bob D. View Post
                        JC, you mention the WH in your original post but no photos of the vent or how it ties in.
                        Sorry. It's just above the boiler vent. I mean mm out of the picture. I thought I got it in there.

                        Update: I asked around and found someone local that is supposed to be experienced enough to get it working properly so I directed the customer to them.

                        I did not have time or think it safe to "guess tinker" with it right now.

                        Thanks everyone.


                        J.C.

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                        • #27
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                          The scorching on the front inside the front panel is a definite indication that the section passageways are plugged.

                          Take top off and look down between sections.

                          Not as easy as it sounds since the collectors are usually rotted, and you need new gasketing and sealant.

                          If possible to get to use a boiler brush in a drill and go to town at all angles getting through the section fingers.

                          With burners out first before brushing vac out bottom

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