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    I have a slab leak. I've decided to go with a reroute through the attic/crawl space. I don't know if I should go with wirsbo or copper. I'm in Phoenix az, so the attic gets very hot in the summer but is unlikely to freeze in the winter. The soil and water are "aggressive" -- I guess that's why the copper pipe under the slab started leaking -- and I have copper through the rest of the house. I'm not repiping the whole house, just rerouting the pipe from the manifold by the hot water heater to a manifold about 12 ft. away. I never knew what a manifold was until 3 days ago, so that shows my level of plumbing knowledge. Thanks in advance for your advice.

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    Pex, it's fast cheap and easy
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      I'm in Glendale AZ and a number of years ago we had to re-plumb our home. We did go with
      Wisbro-Pex. We replaced old galvanized plumbing.

      Running the Wisbro-Pex through the attic is not a problem. I do strongly suggest you insulate
      both the hot and cold runs in the attic..use the foam split insulation available at Home Depot.
      This will keep the cold line from getting too warm in our 100 degree days.

      The attic heat will not hurt the Wisbro-Pex. but without the insulation you will end up running
      the cold water a while for the water to get cold at the faucet.

      I also suggest you use 3/4" for all runs and then stub out to 1/2" copper.
      Running from the water meter to the house can be 1" or 1 1/4"
      The inside diameter of Wisbro-Pex is slightly less than similar sized copper.

      I did install a manifold system with ball valves...This just about eliminates any
      screaming when you're in the shower and someone flushes the toilet ha ha ha.

      I split the distribution to each bathroom, kitchen ..etc. This also makes any local repairs
      very easy and you only shut down a specific zone.

      Finally when you transition from underground into the house you need to use copper as
      Wisbro-Pex does not play well exposed to the elements.

      I have not had any challenges with the Wisbro-Pex installation.
      Don't forget the building permit.


      Cactus Man

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        Copper is the best option for reroute pex is fast and easy for a quick fix.

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          Re: copper vs wirsbo???

          Originally posted by LThompson View Post
          Copper is the best option for reroute pex is fast and easy for a quick fix.
          I would have to disagree. He said his water is aggressive, meaning it's most likely very acidic. Why would you want to run copper overhead with this type of water situation? That's just asking for secondary future damage. Pex is the best way to go in this situation.

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            • #7
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              Are you bragging or complaining?

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                PEX will come out cheaper, not to mention easier to install.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Big Jim View Post
                  Are you bragging or complaining?
                  Uh oh.... done wrong?

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                    Not at all....it's bootiful.

                    I know how much you sparky's like your home runs.

                    I've seen plumbers that could've done a lot worse.
                    Last edited by Big Jim; 05-04-2011, 06:10 PM.

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                      Originally posted by Big Jim View Post
                      Not at all....it's bootiful.

                      I know how much you sparky's like your home runs.

                      I've seen plumbers that could've done a lot worse.

                      Lol! Yes we do! That and I've worked on other houses (friends, family, etc) and always hated lack of shutoffs... I also thought it might help get hot water to the baths maybe a little faster, but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

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                      • #12
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                        This has nothing to do with how beautiful it looks. He said he has agressive water. The obvious choice would be pex. Not even a question. How anyone could think running copper through the attic would be better blow my mind.

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                        • #13
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                          PEX. And I'm scared to say this........EP fittings.


                          J.C.

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                          • #14
                            Re: copper vs wirsbo???

                            Originally posted by ironranger View Post
                            I would have to disagree. He said his water is aggressive, meaning it's most likely very acidic. Why would you want to run copper overhead with this type of water situation? That's just asking for secondary future damage. Pex is the best way to go in this situation.
                            Water is fine in phx copper is the best material for this area...acidic maybe but petroleum pex would not be in my home...

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                              Originally posted by LThompson View Post
                              Water is fine in phx copper is the best material for this area...acidic maybe but petroleum pex would not be in my home...

                              What's Petroleum pex?

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