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    I'm hoping someone here can help with a problem. To make a long story short, my pool (concrete) has been slowly losing water the past couple of years, until recently in the neighborhood of 2/3 " per day. Few months ago that became about 6' / day. Now the real kicker. In the course of one week I have one foot of water left. I call a pool company and they come and and pressure test the lines. All okay (whew). It seems that the bottom drain has cracks all in it and has been repaired before.
    This is now where I am looking for help. They say repair will cost about $2000 which involves breaking up concrete and replacing the cracked bowl and reconnecting it to the pipe. I'm thinking that money could buy me some NICE tools instead. All kind of fixes have gone through my pea brain, from quikrete to gluing a bucket with a hole in it to some sort of patching job. Thinking of option 3. Any suggestions on how to patch it? Fiberglass, epoxy, concrete with a pipe coming through? The drain is plastic now and about 6" diameter. In reality it only needs to be big enough to connect to the 1 1/2" pipe. One concern I have is the fact it will be underwater and subject to pool chemicals, specifically chlorine, which tends to degrade some substances. Any suggestions? I can try and take a picture if necessary.

    p.s. I'm more of a wood guy than a concrete guy

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    I think a picture would be of a big help here, at lest one would have more of an ideal of what your needing to repair,

    If I am following it is some kind of drain system that is having problems, in the bottom of the pool, and it is cracked.
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      Originally posted by BHD View Post
      I think a picture would be of a big help here, at lest one would have more of an ideal of what your needing to repair,

      If I am following it is some kind of drain system that is having problems, in the bottom of the pool, and it is cracked.

      Here are 3 pictures progressively closer. On the third one I have placed arrows on the most obvious ones. There are numerous smaller cracks in the plastic. A drain cover goes over the top of this normally, also plastic.
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      • #4
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        Originally posted by OpaDC View Post
        I'm hoping someone here can help with a problem. To make a long story short, my pool (concrete) has been slowly losing water the past couple of years, until recently in the neighborhood of 2/3 " per day. Few months ago that became about 6' / day. Now the real kicker. In the course of one week I have one foot of water left. I call a pool company and they come and and pressure test the lines. All okay (whew). It seems that the bottom drain has cracks all in it and has been repaired before.
        This is now where I am looking for help. They say repair will cost about $2000 which involves breaking up concrete and replacing the cracked bowl and reconnecting it to the pipe. I'm thinking that money could buy me some NICE tools instead. All kind of fixes have gone through my pea brain, from quikrete to gluing a bucket with a hole in it to some sort of patching job. Thinking of option 3. Any suggestions on how to patch it? Fiberglass, epoxy, concrete with a pipe coming through? The drain is plastic now and about 6" diameter. In reality it only needs to be big enough to connect to the 1 1/2" pipe. One concern I have is the fact it will be underwater and subject to pool chemicals, specifically chlorine, which tends to degrade some substances. Any suggestions? I can try and take a picture if necessary.

        p.s. I'm more of a wood guy than a concrete guy
        I would have the pool company fix it so if there is a probblem it becomes their problem. I would also be careful not to wait too long or you may have your pool float out of the ground on you.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
          I would have the pool company fix it so if there is a probblem it becomes their problem. I would also be careful not to wait too long or you may have your pool float out of the ground on you.

          Mark
          I agree with you on this. Its one of those you can pay the pool company now or pay them later, but you will end up paying them.
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          • #6
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            Lots of cracks Have you talked to anyone about installing a liner?

            2 grand will buy some nice tools

            It will also buy a few truckloads of fill dirt for that swimming hole in your backyard

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            • #7
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              well im not going to give you a smart a** answer so how about trying some fiberglass mesh if it will be ok with the chemicals . just a thought
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
                well im not going to give you a smart a** answer so how about trying some fiberglass mesh if it will be ok with the chemicals . just a thought
                would the mesh just be used as a surface to adhere to? i was actually thinking of something along this line and basically patching the whole drain wall. i figure on roughing up the plastic first and maybe using an underwater epoxy.

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                • #9
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                  Here is a true answer to your problem. First have the surface of the concrete around the main drain cut to remove the drain. Second patch with seam sealing expoy(used to patch cracks in commerical pools and bridges). Third use a paint product call Poly one coat, it is the strongest concrete paint in the indrustry. It is a expoy base and comes in gallon two part system. The cost is about $75-80 dollars a gallon but will work very well as we have made this same repair before. As for the plumbing fill the line with portland and then cap the end so it can't become a syphon for ground water to create more damage. At hte equipment remove and cap unused lines. Remember that the main drain was designed to be a suction line and you may need to adjust the equipment to address lack of suction and then gallons per minute rate of your pump. If this seems to expensive do try a liner but remember that a track will also need to be installed and the cost a liner is $1500 and $3000. So as you see that price of $2000 seem about the price . good luck from the POOL DAWG in pennslyvania.

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                  • #10
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                    welcome pool dawg where in pa are you im in Lancaster co
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                    • #11
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                      Chambersburg, checking in. Welcome!
                      Later,
                      Chiz
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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by ironhat View Post
                        Chambersburg, checking in. Welcome!
                        howdy ironhat i did some dog training out there in the state park ,very nice place
                        Charlie

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