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    We install PV solar systems and I need to purchase a fall protection system for work on steep pitched rooves. Something that does not anchor from above, is easy to set-up and doesn't damage the structure. Scaffolding to the facia board is probably the obvious answer, but perhaps you have seen a less costly and time consuming system?
    Last edited by spodelee; 01-11-2009, 09:12 PM.
    spodelee

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    Re: Roof Fall Protection

    Fall protection? What about roof jacks?????

    I don't know of anyone who has ever fallen from those....

    Hey everyone, I'm in Hammond Indiana right now.... Its fuggly here, yuck....
    Great Link for a Construction Owner/Tradesmen, and just say Garager sent you....

    http://www.contractorspub.com

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    • #3
      Re: Roof Fall Protection

      Originally posted by garager View Post
      Hey everyone, I'm in Hammond Indiana right now.... Its fuggly here, yuck....
      Say Hi to aunt Ruthie for me

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      • #4
        Re: Roof Fall Protection

        So happy Garager is working.

        I've always said that if I had to do much roof work I would purchase a used scissor bed truck just for the situation. Obviously you would need to get it near the worksite but it would save a TON of time.

        J.C.

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        • #5
          Re: Roof Fall Protection

          Originally posted by garager View Post
          Fall protection? What about roof jacks?????

          I don't know of anyone who has ever fallen from those....

          Hey everyone, I'm in Hammond Indiana right now.... Its fuggly here, yuck....
          We are not re-roofing most of the time and ladder jacks require puncturing the roof. Trying to avoid unnecessary penetrations.

          Thanks for the suggestion though
          spodelee

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          • #6
            Re: Roof Fall Protection

            I believe there is a system that you install an anchor on the far side of the house and run the anchor line over the ridge. I'll look tomorrow and see if I can find something on them.
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            • #7
              Re: Roof Fall Protection

              Bob D is correct. You use the line in conjuction with an apperatus called a rope grab. Pay attention to what you tie off the rope to as it has to be solid. Also do your men a favour and buy the lanyard that has the shock absorber on it.

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              • #8
                Re: Roof Fall Protection

                Here's what OSHA says about fall protection and roofs. This is just one of many pages of information on their site about fall protection.



                Roofing

                Low-slope Roofs

                Each employee engaged in roofing activities on low-slope roofs with unprotected sides and edges 6 feet (1.8 meters) or more above lower levels shall be protected from falling by guardrail systems, safety net systems, personal fall arrest systems or a combination of a warning line system and guardrail system, warning line system and safety net system, warning line system and personal fall arrest system, or warning line system and safety monitoring system. On roofs 50 feet (15.24 meters) or less in width, the use of a safety monitoring system without a warning line system is permitted.

                Steep Roofs

                Each employee on a steep roof with unprotected sides and edges 6 feet (1.8 meters) or more above lower levels shall be protected by guardrail systems with toeboards, safety net systems, or personal fall arrest systems.

                Here's even more info.
                http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/hazard/safety_falls.html


                Here's some commercial systems available:

                http://www.millerfallprotection.com/...ofing-products
                Miller's site has a wealth of information, look around.

                http://www.fallprotection.com/rooferskitsnew.cfm


                http://constructionsafetyconsultant....protection.PDF

                I've noticed a number of these commercial systems come packaged in a 5 gal. bucket. That's a good idea that is easy to replicate if you have existing equipment that needs protective storage. Get a 5 gal spackle bucket with a lid and wash it out clean. Use it to store your harness, lanyard, carabiners, etc. This will protect them from damage from sharp tools, chemicals or solvents, etc. keeping them in a ready to use condition. You could also number all the pieces to a 'set' of fall protection gear to help ensure they all go back together in the same bucket. Some felt tip markers have chemicals in them that can affect the webbing used on harnesses so don't use a marker. Use a metal tag attached with a ty-rap or similar sturdy fastener that won't compromise the integrity of the equipment. If you don't and someone gets hurt using that equipment you might be liable for altering the equipment and thereby voiding the warranty.

                I could not find a link to the system I mentioned in a earlier post. It was an anchor that was put in the ground on the far side of the building (it is meant to be used on single story low pitched roofs) and the anchoring strap runs over the ridge. You then attach your retractable lanyard (yo-yo as some call them) and harness to the strap. This method does no damage to the roof and does not require penetrating the roof with fasteners. But I can't remember the name of the company that makes it, maybe some one else will know.
                Last edited by Bob D.; 01-12-2009, 12:02 PM. Reason: fixed a typo
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                Light is faster than sound. That's why some people seem really bright until you hear them speak.
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                “If I had my life to live over again, I'd be a plumber.” - Albert Einstein
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                "Its a table saw.... Do you know where your fingers are?"
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                • #9
                  Re: Roof Fall Protection

                  Originally posted by Bob D. View Post
                  Here's what OSHA says about fall protection and roofs. This is just one of many pages of information on their site about fall protection.



                  Roofing

                  Low-slope Roofs

                  Each employee engaged in roofing activities on low-slope roofs with unprotected sides and edges 6 feet (1.8 meters) or more above lower levels shall be protected from falling by guardrail systems, safety net systems, personal fall arrest systems or a combination of a warning line system and guardrail system, warning line system and safety net system, warning line system and personal fall arrest system, or warning line system and safety monitoring system. On roofs 50 feet (15.24 meters) or less in width, the use of a safety monitoring system without a warning line system is permitted.

                  Steep Roofs

                  Each employee on a steep roof with unprotected sides and edges 6 feet (1.8 meters) or more above lower levels shall be protected by guardrail systems with toeboards, safety net systems, or personal fall arrest systems.

                  Here's even more info.
                  http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/hazard/safety_falls.html


                  Here's some commercial systems available:

                  http://www.millerfallprotection.com/...ofing-products
                  Miller's site has a wealth of information, look around.

                  http://www.fallprotection.com/rooferskitsnew.cfm


                  http://constructionsafetyconsultant....protection.PDF

                  I've noticed a number of these commercial systems come packaged in a 5 gal. bucket. That's a good idea that is easy to replicate if you have existing equipment that needs protective storage. Get a 5 gal spackle bucket with a lid and wash it out clean. Use it to store your harness, lanyard, carabiners, etc. This will protect them from damage from sharp tools, chemicals or solvents, etc. keeping them in a ready to use condition. You could also number all the pieces to a 'set' of fall protection gear to help ensure they all go back together in the same bucket. Some felt tip markers have chemicals in them that can affect the webbing used on harnesses so don't use a marker. Use a metal tag attached with a ty-rap or similar sturdy fastener that won't compromise the integrity of the equipment. If you don't and someone gets hurt using that equipment you might be liable for altering the equipment and thereby voiding the warranty.

                  I could not find a link to the system I mentioned in a earlier post. It was an anchor that was put in the ground on the far side of the building (it is meant to be used on single story low pitched roofs) and the anchoring strap runs over the ridge. You then attach your retractable lanyard (yo-yo as some call them) and harness to the strap. This method does no damage to the roof and does not require penetrating the roof with fasteners. But I can't remember the name of the company that makes it, maybe some one else will know.
                  Thanks Bob, I really appreciate all of the research! I am going to set aside some time to digest it all.
                  spodelee

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                  • #10
                    Re: Roof Fall Protection

                    Originally posted by spodelee View Post
                    We are not re-roofing most of the time and ladder jacks require puncturing the roof. Trying to avoid unnecessary penetrations.

                    Thanks for the suggestion though
                    Lift shingle or tab, and nail the roof jacks down. When done, pop out roof jacks and pound nail head down, seal with some tar dabs, which should seal down the shingle again, no leaks whatsoever.....
                    Great Link for a Construction Owner/Tradesmen, and just say Garager sent you....

                    http://www.contractorspub.com

                    A good climbing rope will last you 3 to 5 years, a bad climbing rope will last you a life time !!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Roof Fall Protection

                      would something like this work?

                      http://astore.amazon.com/tradesmento...ail/B000S98C6C
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