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Got the microdrain 65. was very difficult to get it through my plastic WM ptrap,and when i finally did, there was a lot of extra push cable in the drain and once the top of the ptrap started cutting into the push cable, was unable to go any further. Bummer. took it to shower--2" plastic ptrap. same thing. finally, with a lot of effort, got through the trap, but that was as far as it was going to go. Even if i get the hang of it, i do NOT see it going through a ci trap. Essentially, the trap itself puts so much pressure on the push cable that it seems to be all it can do just to get through the trap.
might have just bought myself a second mini--more or less.