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  • #16
    Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

    yes, that's the way to do it.

    your cable is a combination of a harbor freight/ chinese junk and possibly too small. (3/8'')

    1/2'' will clear paper waste/ soft in 3'' and possibly 4''.

    go slow and keep a feel on the cable and motor noise. don't let it torque or you'll twist it.

    a decent cable can be substituted to make it a more durable cleaner.

    harbor freight makes 2 models. the better one has an auto feed.

    rick.
    phoebe it is

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    • #17
      Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

      Originally posted by fluepipe3 View Post
      The history of the line is that its be done 2x before, it was paper/sludge no roots. Is the cable to big or to small? If I do it I will take your advice and do it from the clean out under the trailer.
      The company that did it the last time is out of business do to retirement and has since moved away. I watched them do it . The guy told me that he feeds the line slowly and then when water starts to flow again, he sprays water down there to wash any remaining sludge/paper clear.
      does this sound right to you?

      Thankyou again sir.
      If this line has such a history...it is likely back-pitched or cracked or worse. Get a pro who can video-inpsect it to see why the problem keeps re-occurring. Or just replace it.
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      • #18
        Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

        Thanks for expert advice,Mr. Rick. It was much appreciated.

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        • #19
          Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

          This is the third time it has stopped up...something is wrong with the sewer pipe. Are you going to just keep cabling it forever, or get it fixed? I'll repeat a video-inpection would be the best. Or if the line is short and fairly easy to replace, then just replace it and forgo the cost of inspection.
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          • #20
            Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

            carl, i rather doubt that a stoppage that the owner can easily take care of is grounds for a major sewer repair.

            if anything, a more accessible clean out is in line.

            even i have roots

            but guess what? i snake it every couple of years when i want to test out a new machine. yes, i camered it. but that too was to test out a new camera. i've never plugged up, not even a toilet stoppage in all the years i've been here.

            sometimes it's a financial decision to maintain the line. not repair/ replace the line.

            i would think with the proper clean out and a decent cable. he can easily keep his sewer draining, without draining his wallet

            rick.
            phoebe it is

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            • #21
              Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

              Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
              carl, i rather doubt that a stoppage that the owner can easily take care of is grounds for a major sewer repair.

              if anything, a more accessible clean out is in line.

              even i have roots

              but guess what? i snake it every couple of years when i want to test out a new machine. yes, i camered it. but that too was to test out a new camera. i've never plugged up, not even a toilet stoppage in all the years i've been here.

              sometimes it's a financial decision to maintain the line. not repair/ replace the line.

              i would think with the proper clean out and a decent cable. he can easily keep his sewer draining, without draining his wallet

              rick.

              We'll have to agree to disagree then. If I had roots in my line, or had to cable my line multiple times for soft stoppage, I would repair or replace it immediately. Thats just how I am.
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              • #22
                Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                For the record I video-inpected my sewer BEFORE I bought my house in 2006. It was totally perfect. Rick, I think its an embarrassment to have roots in your sewer as a pro plumber!
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                • #23
                  Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                  Originally posted by Service Guy View Post
                  For the record I video-inpected my sewer BEFORE I bought my house in 2006. It was totally perfect. Rick, I think its an embarrassment to have roots in your sewer as a pro plumber!
                  i think any sewer that is clay with cement joints is subject to roots. that's 90% of everything out here. 10% is perfect.

                  i think your next purchase is a back hoe.

                  not everyone is willing to, or needs to spend $10,000 for a sewer line.

                  that's about the going rate for any work beyond the sidewalk and into the street to the saddle.

                  $155.00 once a year sounds a whole lot better to me and them. that's why i own snakes and cameras and not a backhoe or a city bond/ sewer license to work in the public right of way.

                  90% of the lines i camera have roots. less than 5% need anything more than a cleaning or a good accessible clean out installed.

                  for me to sell a sewer, i need a track record with the customer. now if i'm the 3rd. guy there and can't get it open, then it needs a sewer repair.

                  rick.
                  phoebe it is

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                  • #24
                    Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                    Fair enough. Sewers around here often cost less than $10,000. I could dig up my sewer by hand with a small crew of laborers on one day. It wouldn't cost me much at all. This guy (fluepipe3) lives in a mobile home park. There will be likely not too much digging since the line is short. I have even hand-dug many sewer lines. (although I admit, most are done with a track-hoe!)

                    I guess things are different in LA, but fluepipe3 probably has an easily excavated sewer.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                      Most of the mobile home mains I do are on traps. Paper stoppages galore. I suspect that might be the case here. No need to replace or sell something that someone doesn't need.

                      My own home has gnarly roots near the county tie-in. That's out near the parkway/curb area, almost into the street. It's an unincorporated area. No city affiliation. They won't fix it and I'm sure as heck ain't digging it up. Even if it backed up twice a year I couldn't justify putting out the money.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                        Twicepipes, since the OP has had this happen 3 times, wouldn't you recommend a video-inspection to see what is wrong with it? I certainly would.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                          Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
                          harbor freight makes 2 models. the better one has an auto feed.

                          rick.
                          Not sure if it's a good or bad thing that you know this

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                          • #28
                            Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                            Originally posted by Service Guy View Post
                            Twicepipes, since the OP has had this happen 3 times, wouldn't you recommend a video-inspection to see what is wrong with it? I certainly would.
                            Depends. 3 backups in the last year? Yes. 3 times in the last 5 years. Probably not. It's just the nature of mobile park plumbing. I'm thinking it's just a local thing, 9 out of 10 times it is. But that's my experience. However, if it turns out to be roots, by all means, break out the shovel and install a c/o and get some blades in there. Cleaning roots out of a sewer while laying on you belly is no fun thing.
                            Maybe then run the camera.
                            Seems like a lot of expense for a likely soft stoppage.

                            And yeah I agree with rick. 3/8" cable in a 3 or 4" line is not recommended. Not that it's impossible in the hands of a bad azz drain cleaner

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                            • #29
                              Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                              Originally posted by Twicepipes View Post
                              Not sure if it's a good or bad thing that you know this
                              no i don't own them, but i do read the harbor freight catalog

                              joey calls it tool porn

                              they even had a 12 volt model they discontinued

                              rick.
                              phoebe it is

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                              • #30
                                Re: Going into a clog from the sewer outlet

                                Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
                                no i don't own them, but i do read the harbor freight catalog

                                joey calls it tool porn

                                rick.
                                I have to admit, I buy their tarps, duct tape, zip ties and other expendable junk.

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