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  • 78' trenchless area drain

    so this is the follow up to the "jetter pipe pull prep" http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20338

    the interesting thing was not the actual pull, but the setup.

    i had already installed a pull rope when i jetted the line last month. so i figured how hard could it be to attach a 1/4'' wire rope and pull this through from there i then attach my grade 100 5/8'' chain to do the actual pull.

    problem was the old thin wall abs pipe was so full of sand, and jagged ends that pulling the rope was a real chore. then pulling the chain was almost a no go.

    joey had to go back home and grab my 4wd. tahoe to pull with. initially we had tried to pull it by hand, then with a 1/2 ton pick up, and finally the 4wd. once the chain was in, we got down to business and made a nice pull.

    so the prep was the killer. the pull itself was a piece of cake.

    there are some photos of the entry and pulling pit. the puller requires a hole 6'' deeper than the pipe. 30'' wide and 48'' long. this gives me room to play and properly shore the ditch.

    the pipe of choice is sdr17 hdpe. it's fused just like hdpe gas pipe at 500 degrees and a 35 second melt time.

    i prepped the holes with a 5'' core into each concrete vault prior to putting in any cables/ chains.

    so a real big thanks goes out to adam/ dirty hands and joey/ mrsseatdown aka my wife

    they are camera shy and didn't want a photo

    so all in all, a hard days work for a good days pay

    enjoy the photos

    rick.







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  • #2
    Re: 78' trenchless area drain

    Nice pull Rick.

    We don't have storm sewers here but is that where this ties into?

    Okie

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    • #3
      Re: 78' trenchless area drain

      some more photos.


      the roots came from this ficus over 100' away and atleast 8' deeper than the tree.

      the finished sdr17 pipe was pulled into the the pit and hammered home into the 5'' cored holes.

      enjoy the photos


      rick.





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      • #4
        Re: 78' trenchless area drain

        Originally posted by OkieBill View Post
        Nice pull Rick.

        We don't have storm sewers here but is that where this ties into?

        Okie
        It was storm drain to sump pump to street
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        • #5
          Re: 78' trenchless area drain

          Cool. I have done one trenchless pipe-bursting with 4" HDPE pipe at my old company. Now I just refer trenchless work to them in exchange for a finder's fee.
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          • #6
            Re: 78' trenchless area drain

            So was this line "Bursted" or slip lined or both?

            I'm still learning about this technology so forgive if I use the wrong terminology

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            • #7
              Re: 78' trenchless area drain

              Bursted. A pipe-bursting head is hydraulically pulled through the old pipe, and pulls behind new pipe in its place.
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              • #8
                Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                Bursted. It splits the pipe in the ground and pulls the new pipe through hydraulically.
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                • #9
                  Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                  As far as work-niche specialization and tool assortment...Rick is definitely a role model for me. My business is going in the same direction...specialty tools for drain-cleaning, pipe-inspection...and eventually jetting and pipe-bursting.
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                  • #10
                    Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                    So the head is basicly a wedge that splits and or clears the path... The real muscle is in the pulling rig...

                    I always thought the bursting head was powered in some way.

                    Could directional drilling also be used in a situation like this?

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                    • #11
                      Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                      Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
                      so the prep was the killer. the pull itself was a piece of cake.
                      That is normal with pipe-bursting, at least in my brief experience.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                        Originally posted by OkieBill View Post
                        So the head is basicly a wedge that splits and or clears the path... The real muscle is in the pulling rig...

                        I always thought the bursting head was powered in some way.

                        Could directional drilling also be used in a situation like this?
                        As soon as Rick finishes replying on another thread I'll have him post a photo of the end of the machine with the pistons.
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                        • #13
                          Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                          here is the hydraulic puller assy.

                          basically a hydraulic power pack that is 9hp. it develops 3000# of hydraulic pressure that equates to 40,000# per cylinder. so the 2 pistons can ultimatly pull 40 tons.

                          this pull was actually a nice easy pull as it stayed at about 800-900# of hydraulic pump pressure.

                          rick.






                          this is a better photo of the puller set up from a prior job.
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                          • #14
                            Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                            I recognize your helpers!
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                            • #15
                              Re: 78' trenchless area drain

                              Originally posted by Service Guy View Post
                              I recognize your helpers!
                              His helpers didn't want to be in the photos-can you tell
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