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  • Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

    I don't know how many of you do work on septic systems but here is what happens underground.
    This is a picture of a drain field that's clogged. The biomat layer was to thick to filter out any more water. I am designing a new retro fit system to correct this kind of problem in septic drain fields. I have it designed but awaiting on my county's ok to do our testing. ( that's a pain in the butt)

    Anyway I thought some of you might want to see and know why drain fields fail.




    As of right now the only thing you can do to try and save a drain field is Jet it but I think I may have a new solution to go along with jetting. Just have to prove it to the KDHE
    http://www.all-clear-sewer.com/

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    Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

    Been working on septics seems like forever. Here the majority are black corrugated. Not PVC like what your picture appears to be. I've seen MUCH WORSE.

    There are multiple systems available from different manufacturers to reintroduce aerobic bacteria into the system to restore it. All kinds of claims but no studies & time will tell.

    J.C.
    Last edited by BobsPlumbing; 12-11-2008, 05:26 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

      We are doing studies with out the County/State knowing and they do work I just have to get it approved so I can show the results
      Once the State say`s (OK) test it, I`ll drop the paper work from the lab on their desk
      Most of the Systems out there don't work because there's more to it then what they claim
      http://www.all-clear-sewer.com/

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      • #4
        Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

        I'm interested.
        My uncle needs a new field this summer. He lives alone in the woods so no big rush.
        If you need a test site in Maine let me know.
        INSIGHT PIPE is now Maine Drain Serving most of ME with no charge for travel! 207-431-6232 is nolonger a working # our NEW # is 207-355-1476
        Sewer main snaking (roto rooting). Sink clogs. Sewer backup. Pipe inspection/locating. No Dig trenchless repair. Root clog removal.We are NOT to replace your local Plumber, as we do not do plumbing. WE ARE YOUR DRAIN CLEANING EXPERTS!!! www.sewermaine.com waterville winslow bangor augusta skowhegan fairfield pittsfield oakland

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        • #5
          Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

          Heres what i offer my customers. It works great and I have had real good results.

          I first jet the system totally and then install this device:

          http://www.pirana.biz/solution.htm

          http://www.septicgenie.com/

          Both are the same product but the pirana is the "contractor grade" product that I sell.
          www.firstresponsedrain.com

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          • #6
            Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

            Originally posted by jrsaltz View Post
            Heres what i offer my customers. It works great and I have had real good results.

            I first jet the system totally and then install this device:

            http://www.pirana.biz/solution.htm

            http://www.septicgenie.com/

            Both are the same product but the pirana is the "contractor grade" product that I sell.
            Round about what does one of these cost???

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            • #7
              Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

              I found a competetive/similar solution on the web. Here's a link: http://www.aero-stream.com/
              It seems they're different designs that do the same thing; they basically aerate the effluent and create an "aerobic" bacteria that can live 4-5 days without air. This new strain of bacteria then travel into the drainfield and consume the biomat(the bacteria causing the failure), thus restoring drainage. They must work; the one from the link offers a money-back guarantee. These add on compressor/aerators are just a takeoff from a pure aerobic system to start with. Your method sounds like a good one; jet it to get it flowing again, then hit it with the aerator as maintenance. If it works as good as they all claim, then making sure that compressor is running and nothing is clogged or broken, it should provide a real solution.

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              • #8
                Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

                From the responses I can tell that most of you haven't studied septic systems.
                The biomat is a bacteria layer which forms in soil below and around drainfield trenches where septic effluent is discharged. This layer is critical in the processing of biological solids and pathogens which are in the effluent. Without this layer the septic system would not be adequately treating the effluent. Inadequately treated effluent released into the ground risks contamination of nearby ponds, wells, streams, etc.
                I have had meeting with Jim from Aero-Stream and many other company's that sell these kinds of products. Like I said before there's more to the story then just an air pump and a stone being dropped in to a septic tank
                http://www.all-clear-sewer.com/

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                • #9
                  Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

                  Pretty complex/involved systems.
                  I've never priced one but I wonder if the cost is close to just installing a new leach field once you factor in extra electric for air pumps, life span of pumps, maintenance, bio additives etc?
                  I'm not knocking the systems, in fact I find them quite interesting and would like to learn more about them.
                  INSIGHT PIPE is now Maine Drain Serving most of ME with no charge for travel! 207-431-6232 is nolonger a working # our NEW # is 207-355-1476
                  Sewer main snaking (roto rooting). Sink clogs. Sewer backup. Pipe inspection/locating. No Dig trenchless repair. Root clog removal.We are NOT to replace your local Plumber, as we do not do plumbing. WE ARE YOUR DRAIN CLEANING EXPERTS!!! www.sewermaine.com waterville winslow bangor augusta skowhegan fairfield pittsfield oakland

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                  • #10
                    Re: Biomat in Septic Drain Fields

                    There are so meany reasons a field fails one product wont fix everything. Poor soil, field not big enough, field line collapsed. Septic waste over flow and plug weep holes in pipe Bio mat getting hard and not letting water seep through sides of trench.Or compaction from something heavy driving or walking over it or field being put in when it is wet and the sides of trench get smeared. A bio mat if it is not two thick may help keep the pours open so it will keep draining but if it gets hard it forms a bearer to stop the percolation of water. The best way I have found to deal with a hard bio mat is to jet the line then sub soil both sides of pipe trench wall breaking up the hard bio mat. I have seen air hoses run down field lines and air kept blowing in them to promote rhobic bacteria with an air pump but with not much success. The best method is to have the tank cleaned and checked regular, make sure there is a good baffle on out let, in other words don't let the bio mat get that bad to begin with.

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