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  • #31
    Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

    How much drain cleaning do they teach in, for lack of better words, Plumbing school?

    How many questions relate to drain cleaning on the license test?

    Honest questions, please answer both.
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    • #32
      Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

      Originally posted by Gene Bickford View Post
      How much drain cleaning do they teach in, for lack of better words, Plumbing school?

      How many questions relate to drain cleaning on the license test?

      Honest questions, please answer both.


      NONE AND NONE


      They should, but I think they have enough trouble just with the interpretations of the code as it is, without the maintenance side.


      I'm telling you what, pop tarts and pain pills is where it's at! I feel like I just drank pool water from the fountain of youth!
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      • #33
        Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

        Originally posted by Gene Bickford View Post
        How much drain cleaning do they teach in, for lack of better words, Plumbing school?

        How many questions relate to drain cleaning on the license test?

        Honest questions, please answer both.
        the union school i went to was split into 4 different curriculum directions.

        there was the plumber, fitters, service and repair, and irrigation.

        i would imagine the service and repair guys did get some training.

        the plumbing guys got none.

        this was a 4 year school.

        as far as the test, we did have questions about cleanouts. but the test is no real hands on get dirty test. it's just a multiple choice done on a computer.

        biggest problem i see with guys that get into drain cleaning is that they have no plumbing experience. there is a whole lot more to drain cleaning than running a cable down a drain.

        once again, a licensed plumber that transition into drain cleaning is way ahead of a drain cleaner trying to get into plumbing.

        rick.
        phoebe it is

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        • #34
          Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

          When I added drain cleaning, I changed my cards to add "Drain Cleaning." No prob, since I print my own.

          When I went to get a box truck, I found that banks weren't loaning. Ouch. Never been turned down before. But it's just as well - who knows if I could make the payments?

          So I bought a 10' trailer and that's what I'm using now. It holds far more than my pickup did, with some nifty shelving, and I now have room for the drain cleaning stuff, too. But if I need to do a water heater, no problem. Lots of room for that, as well. And bonus! The trailer is closer to the ground than a pickup. Plus, plenty of headroom.

          Only thing that has me stumped so far is that 14-1/2' ladder that won't fit . . .

          But I do have a foldup model that will reach roofs as long as they're one-story.

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          • #35
            Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

            To the original question-If you can keep the cables hot I'd say go for it. In my opinion, and I really don't want to offend anyone, drain cleaning is the least headache with good pay of all the plumbing related fields I've been involved. (Septic repair/installation/pumping, sewer/water line replacements, commercial rough in/finals, residential rough in/finals, repair, repipes, water heater replacement, drain cleaning)

            No inspections.
            Not alot of codes to run into or code changes.
            No different interpretations of codes.
            No licenses.
            No Continuing Education required.
            Don't typically have to keep a thousand parts for a thousand things.
            No job juggling. Checking on things, is this ordered item here for this job or that job.
            Plus the worry on those dozens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of joints your responsible for in new work.

            All these things equal time vs. pay and time is the killer for me. Time, time, time is always killing me.

            I'm considering the same thing Carl. I think you may be right on. Obviously, you've just got to stay busy.

            J.C.
            Last edited by BobsPlumbing; 12-30-2008, 07:44 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

              Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
              To the original question-If you can keep the cables hot I'd say go for it. In my opinion, and I really don't want to offend anyone, drain cleaning is the least headache with good pay of all the plumbing related fields I've been involved. (Septic repair/installation/pumping, sewer/water line replacements, commercial rough in/finals, residential rough in/finals, repair, repipes, water heater replacement, drain cleaning)

              No inspections.
              Not alot of codes to run into or code changes.
              No different interpretations of codes.
              No licenses.
              No Continuing Education required.
              Don't typically have to keep a thousand parts for a thousand things.
              No job juggling. Checking on things, is this ordered item here for this job or that job.
              Plus the worry on those dozens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of joints your responsible for in new work.

              All these things equal time vs. pay and time is the killer for me. Time, time, time is always killing me.

              I'm considering the same thing Carl. I think you may be right on. Obviously, you've just got to stay busy.

              J.C.
              Today we had to pull a commercial WC for what turned out to be for the purpose of "retreiving" a big fat tampon. I will never understand Why that somehow could be considered fun, but somehow it is... I think it's the mystery of it all... what will we find this time? Let's just stay drain cleaning keeps your life "interesting"!
              spodelee

              Until lions have their own storytellers, stories of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter

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              • #37
                Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                I have decided I am going to stay as a plumber and keep my name the same.
                BUT, I am going to FOCUS on drain work. And put "Sewer and Drain Specialist" on all my marketing material. Now I need to buy a big jetter and pipe-burster.
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                • #38
                  Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                  a jetter yes

                  a pipe burster

                  save your money. it sounds like an easy process. but it's the school of hard knocks and if you have no hands on experience with this, you better learn quick when you're at the customers house.

                  trust me on this one

                  rick.
                  phoebe it is

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                  • #39
                    Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                    Originally posted by Service Guy View Post
                    I have decided I am going to stay as a plumber and keep my name the same.
                    BUT, I am going to FOCUS on drain work. And put "Sewer and Drain Specialist" on all my marketing material. Now I need to buy a big jetter and pipe-burster.
                    Let me know what you decide to buy. Jetted, burster and splitter are on my shopping list
                    spodelee

                    Until lions have their own storytellers, stories of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter

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                    • #40
                      Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                      R u selling yours ricK? You forget that I have done pipe-bursting already. Using HDPE pipe. I have a ton of experience for a young buck.
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                      • #41
                        Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                        all i can say is you better know what you're getting into.

                        knowing the conditions underground is never cut and dry.

                        i've completed every job i've started. but not every job is as simple as it appears. there is the unknown and there is the failure of the equipment that will sneak up on you. sure when it works as planned, it feels good. when something fails, time to start re-thinking.

                        like i said i've completed every job i started. but not every job is as simple as it looks. i'm sure joey can attest of this. she is more qualified that the people that sell this equipment.

                        that's a fact

                        good luck, but remember, i told you so

                        rick.
                        phoebe it is

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                        • #42
                          Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                          Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
                          all i can say is you better know what you're getting into.

                          knowing the conditions underground is never cut and dry.

                          i've completed every job i've started. but not every job is as simple as it appears. there is the unknown and there is the failure of the equipment that will sneak up on you. sure when it works as planned, it feels good. when something fails, time to start re-thinking.

                          like i said i've completed every job i started. but not every job is as simple as it looks. i'm sure joey can attest of this. she is more qualified that the people that sell this equipment.

                          that's a fact

                          good luck, but remember, i told you so

                          rick.

                          Rick, I wills second that,

                          I don't have nearly as many years as you, but I have worked for LARGE shops were I saw "unforeseen" things happen to often,

                          Sure, a simple main line cleaning could be 1 2 3, but when you start getting into commercial , yea, Oh boy

                          I have been there and been yelled at

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                          • #43
                            Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                            I applied at the courthouse for another assumed business name. Sewer and drain are added to my name.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                              It seems like, with the economy in the shape it is in, that you shouldn't burn any bridges because in a real slow economy you may want to do some of the other work if you don't get enough drain cleaning jobs. On the other hand, if you have so much drain cleaning work that you can't handle the other stuff, then you can just explain that you're a drain specialist who occasionally does other jobs when you have time. Anyway, that's what I would want my husband to do if he were a plumber - I'd be looking for that paycheck to spend!

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                              • #45
                                Re: Plumber transitioning to Drain-Specialist.

                                Plumbing and drain cleaning are the big equalizers. Whether it's one of those $10 million dollar mansions that Rick and All Clear work in or a shotgun shack down by the Mississippi River, the sheet all flows downhill.

                                And when you look the rich b*itch in the eye or the poor waitress and tell her the stoppage was tampons....then everyone is at the same level.

                                I think that's why plumbers can move so easily through society, high or low, because we see and know the "humaness" of everyone. And they know that we know.

                                The lure of the drain cleaning business is a no brainer. It's easy to please the homeowner, just get the drain flowing. Plug comes out, cable goes in , cable comes out, plug goes on, your hand comes out, the money comes in.
                                Not to say there isn't a real talent to it and experience goes a long way.
                                And with good equipment and preparation, things usually go pretty smoothly.

                                But, compare that to the stress of making the customer happy with a new toilet, faucet, vanity install, etc. etc. They have to fit, look good, work well and please the customer in a very subjective way. Then there are the hard to find parts for the eclectic faucets and toilets and the eventual repair which may or may not work.

                                All in all, I would say if you can keep busy with the drain work and you take care of your back while pulling those heavy machines then more power to you.
                                "Man will do many things to get himself loved, he will do all things to get himself envied." Mark Twain

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