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  • #46
    Re: Who you know, not what you know

    Originally posted by Josh View Post
    I laughed the whole time I was reading this because I know how many phone calls must have went back and forth between Rick, Joey, and Adam in the last 2 days.

    JOSH,
    They set me up.
    Mark was in on it too before they even put it up.

    You watch...He'll deny it like he always does.

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    • #47
      Re: Who you know, not what you know

      Originally posted by saysflushable View Post
      Lets face it this thread is more important then pex v copper, Drum v Sectional, or shark bite v soldering. Thanks for the pics so we can have such an important topic. A good plumber friend of mine almost lost the ability to walk from a cave in. He is fine now.

      We have dirt with our rock up here in Kentucky and there's cave-ins all the time, the ones that have been doing it for years and it takes just one time.


      I've had my legs hit before, watched many cave in seconds after a guy in the hole got out. I saw a skid of bricks collapse a ditch 8' away from the hole.

      Down at the pumper show I saw aluminum shoring setups, expensive but life saving.
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      • #48
        Re: Who you know, not what you know

        Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
        Rick ,
        YOU MKJHUGBL.HGTTKGCD YFIGJB<<Jgi97tf>>> oUYF&TF....KUGFR&YTR.....HYGGIUYjik>DSEW$...
        See why I don't like that F@cling camera.
        Back the Fugh off.You weren't there

        I love this place
        ADAM
        adam, how fast you forget

        remember i wasn't there. the photos are from the homeowner who emailed them to me.

        i showed up to give you some clean jeans

        we went out to dinner afterwards.

        rick.
        phoebe it is

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        • #49
          Re: Who you know, not what you know

          Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
          adam, how fast you forget

          remember i wasn't there. the photos are from the homeowner who emailed them to me.

          i showed up to give you some clean jeans

          we went out to dinner afterwards.

          rick.
          Oh puhlease....

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          • #50
            Re: Who you know, not what you know

            Originally posted by Tyman View Post
            I bet we don't see Adam or his work in a pic for atleast 6 months.
            I bet we don't see anyone's work for 6 months

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            • #51
              Re: Who you know, not what you know

              So HVAC Hawk... where is that pic you took at the pumper show? Ya know the one Dunbar is talking about.

              Josh

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              • #52
                Re: Who you know, not what you know

                Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post

                adam working it

                notice the clean shirt and pants

                when you've been doing it as long as adam, you know how to work clean

                rick.
                Unless you are very short that excavation looks to be a slight bit deeper than 5 feet [REF: 29CFR1926.652(a)(1)(ii) or whatever the equivalent CalOSH section is].

                But if you have no employees and are only putting your self at risk (as in NO ONE else goes in the excavation) I guess it's OK.
                As soon as you have one employee (by OSHA rules), you fall under the jurisdiction of the OSHA regs.
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                • #53
                  Re: Who you know, not what you know

                  Originally posted by wrench spinner View Post
                  GUYS!!!! Please next time use shoring of some kind, I do not know the soils out there, but Adam, unless you from the land of OZ that is over 5' deep, in a 2' wide hole, with no ladder or shoring VERY dangerous, next time if you cant use shoring have the excavator dig back the sides a bit more and make sure that he doesn't put the spoils so close tot he edge of the trench... alot of no-nos here guys!
                  Yup, just saw Wrench Spinners comments after posting my own.

                  Over 5 feet deep needs protection. If < 5 feet may still require protection depending on soil conditions.

                  Over 4 feet deep requires means of egress (LADDER or approved method) WITHIN 25 feet of where you are working. Need to move ladder (step ladder not allowed for this use, sorry) as work progresses so it remains within 25 feet of workers. You may need more than one ladder is working in multiple spots. Top of ladder needs to be minumum of 3 feet above edge of trench. [I'm not making this stuff up, its in the Regs.]

                  If you don't know assume worst case on soil classification (CLass C) and slope both sides of trench or excavation back at a 1.5H:1V ratio.

                  Oh, and if a ditch does cave in on you they usually start digging near the ladder as they figue that's where you were heading to try to get out.

                  Spoil can be placed no closer than 2 feet to the edge.

                  Need to remove any water that may accumulate or seep in ovenight and inspect excavation before you start work each day, and as necessary during the day if conditions change.

                  Of course as shown in the photos the opening needs to be covered, posted, and protected (rails or roped off as required) whenever it is not attended by a responsible person (you leave for lunch or go to the parts house or overnight).
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                  • #54
                    Re: Who you know, not what you know

                    Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post

                    adam working it

                    notice the clean shirt and pants

                    when you've been doing it as long as adam, you know how to work clean

                    rick.
                    Believe it or not this pic recently showed up on the OSHA web site under the topic of Trenching and Excavation Safety. I will see if I can find it again and post a link. I knew when I saw it on their site it looked familiar, then it dawned on me it was on the RIDGID Forum I saw it and I have been looking for it for a couple days and just found it this evening. It ran with a caption that read "In over his head" or something like that.
                    Last edited by Bob D.; 06-10-2009, 09:18 PM.
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                    • #55
                      Re: Who you know, not what you know


                      Rick is dangerous with that camera.
                      Last edited by Service Guy; 06-10-2009, 10:20 PM.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Who you know, not what you know

                        Originally posted by Service Guy View Post

                        Rick is dangerous with that camera.
                        rick didn't take the photo.

                        only the post

                        rick was working at another job when this was going on

                        rick.

                        notice how clean adam is. never got any dirt on his whitie tighties

                        rick.
                        phoebe it is

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                        • #57
                          Re: Who you know, not what you know

                          i would be very upset if osha used a pic of me on their website working in a deep un shored trench that someone else posted on the internet...

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                          • #58
                            Re: Who you know, not what you know

                            Originally posted by Bob D. View Post
                            Believe it or not this pic recently showed up on the OSHA web site under the topic of Trenching and Excavation Safety. I will see if I can find it again and post a link. I knew when I saw it on their site it looked familiar, then it dawned on me it was on the RIDGID Forum I saw it and I have been looking for it for a couple days and just found it this evening. It ran with a caption that read "In over his head" or something like that.


                            Hmmm, hope Adam was covered under workers comp in that trench.......
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                            • #59
                              Re: Who you know, not what you know

                              Originally posted by westcoastplumber View Post
                              Hmmm, hope Adam was covered under workers comp in that trench.......

                              hmmmm. last time i checked owners of the company don't need workers comp when they have no employees.

                              plus workers comp doesn't cover the owner.

                              plus this was adams job.

                              only my referral
                              hmmm

                              rick.
                              phoebe it is

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                              • #60
                                Re: Who you know, not what you know

                                Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
                                hmmmm. last time i checked owners of the company don't need workers comp when they have no employees.

                                plus workers comp doesn't cover the owner.

                                plus this was adams job.

                                only my referral
                                hmmm

                                rick.


                                Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt..
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                                Robert

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