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    I have a 4" drain in a grocery store, it appears to go into an old trap or a downward 90 and leg is plugged. I have a feeling the pipe/fitting has separated. The k60 with either size cable and the k1500 will not get past the 90. I can see with the camera a 90 with water at the bottom of the 90 but cannnot get around it. I can try jetting but am nervous that if the pipe is separated the jetter will find its way through the joint. Any suggestions.

  • #2
    Re: Pluuuuged drain

    Put a spiral blade on there and "pop" the feed handle in while holding firm pressure down on the cable. Put a bend in the end of the cable to make things easier.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    • #3
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      do you have a smaller camera? if it's full size it might be hanging up.
      the only dumb question is the one that is not asked!

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      • #4
        Re: Pluuuuged drain

        Originally posted by Boone Plumbing View Post
        I have a 4" drain in a grocery store, it appears to go into an old trap or a downward 90 and leg is plugged. I have a feeling the pipe/fitting has separated. The k60 with either size cable and the k1500 will not get past the 90. I can see with the camera a 90 with water at the bottom of the 90 but cannnot get around it. I can try jetting but am nervous that if the pipe is separated the jetter will find its way through the joint. Any suggestions.
        Can't get 5/8" through a 4" 90? Sounds like some bad ju ju man.

        J.C.

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        • #5
          Re: Pluuuuged drain

          Originally posted by jcsplumbing View Post
          can't get 5/8" through a 4" 90? Sounds like some bad ju ju man.

          J.c.
          Ahh...Si`

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          • #6
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            I have tried almost every style of head for the augers. The camera head gets caught up, but the 5/8" cable won't go through, a smaller camera also won't go through.

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            • #7
              Re: Pluuuuged drain

              Originally posted by Boone Plumbing View Post
              I have tried almost every style of head for the augers. The camera head gets caught up, but the 5/8" cable won't go through, a smaller camera also won't go through.
              This happens to me when they use what I call a doughnut gasket. The lateral will be 6'' and then a 4" pipe is stuck inside with a doughnut gasket. Those gasket let so many roots through and they get so big because they push the gasket out of the way. Of course it could be a seperated pipe.

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              • #8
                Re: Pluuuuged drain

                how far away to the water? possible to wet vac it out so you can see what's up with camera?
                This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.

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                • #9
                  Re: Pluuuuged drain

                  Originally posted by Ace Sewer View Post
                  how far away to the water? possible to wet vac it out so you can see what's up with camera?
                  you beat me to the punch

                  suck out as much water and see what the camera shows.

                  time to get that microdrain were all raving about

                  rick.
                  phoebe it is

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                  • #10
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                    The blockage is 33' from the clean out. Is that too far?

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                    • #11
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                      I would try my older closet auger with the end bent out,
                      To try to clear the trap out, so i could use my cable..

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
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                          Maybe its an old drum trap.

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                          • #14
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                            We use a septic truck when all else fails. Sometimes you can suck the line open. A Shop Vac will have a hard time removing 33 feet of standing water from 4 inch. What the worst thing that can happen if you jet it. Even if you get out of the pipe most time you can tell. PS I have had to dig up a drive thur at the local Taco Bell with a 580 to remove my chain nozzle from a broken pipe were there was a test ball that was used as a clean out cover by the drain guy before me. How deep is it can you locate it with out seeing it?

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                            • #15
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                              Unless there are signs of mud/soil on your cable, I wouldn't assume it's broken or even separated. Surprised our resident pros haven't mentioned this. It's probably just heavy scale/rust build up or possibly a lodged object.

                              As mentioned the line needs to be evacuated to get a visual.

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