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  • #76
    Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

    Originally posted by dcman View Post
    I guess everyone else is working...my excuse...head cold...can't breath thru nose...my family sick as well....I bet customers do go WTF when you bring is in this drill setup....man I would love to see that!! You use a 1.25" cable on this set up...whats the farthest you've gone?
    Ran all 228 feet that's all the 1.25 I carry 4 reels x 7 8 foot sections per cage equal 56 feet per reel. Plus one four footer in total 228 feet. ran all 228 feet with my drill. You can feel the labor in the drill pulling that much cable back. To run over 100 feet where I live and work now with the drill very rare. But I have it if I need it.
    Last edited by UnClogNH; 02-12-2011, 04:19 PM.
    Rod
    MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
    Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
    http://unclognh.com
    http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

    Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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    • #77
      Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

      Originally posted by dcman View Post
      I guess everyone else is working...my excuse...head cold...can't breath thru nose...my family sick as well....I bet customers do go WTF when you bring is in this drill setup....man I would love to see that!! You use a 1.25" cable on this set up...whats the farthest you've gone?
      I'm not a very busy company myself it's a slow area compared to when I worked in the city. It kind of works out because I'm busier during the week and no one really calls on weekends or holidays
      Rod
      MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
      Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
      http://unclognh.com
      http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

      Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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      • #78
        Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

        Originally posted by TheMaster View Post
        Yes a video would be nice. BUT what happens when you have just added a 10' section of cable and you hit a problem area? What keeps the 10' of loose cable from twisting up? I suppose the size and stiffness of the cable will not allow it to kink? Seems you would need to be able to stand atleast 10-12' away from the drain opening to use the setup with the drill.
        mine are 10' sections of innercore and i have 2- 4' sections. so if i hit something nasty, the most cable i have out would be 4' if need be.

        the timberwolf and cable setup is probably the strongest machine i own. the 300 rpm low gear was designed for 4 3/8'' holes in solid lumber with a self feed bit.

        rick.
        phoebe it is

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        • #79
          Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

          See Rick knows the power of this set up too
          Guy's it really is a good set up I understand some of you have a hard time seeing how it works. I was this way with the k 60 myself. Was going to make a video today then realized I should wait till tomorrow for my wife to run the camera better results for viewing.
          Rod
          MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
          Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
          http://unclognh.com
          http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

          Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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          • #80
            Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

            The only thing I didn't see how worked is having a 10' cable 10' out of the drain attached to a drill. Now I see that it doesn't...you use a shorter cable.

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            • #81
              Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

              yea shorter cables make sense...but seems like a lot more time clicking cables and un-clicking cables...IDK....whatcha think?
              Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
              You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

              Derek

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              • #82
                Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                Originally posted by dcman View Post
                yea shorter cables make sense...but seems like a lot more time clicking cables and un-clicking cables...IDK....whatcha think?
                Clicking and un-clicking cables is quick. I do admit over a 100 feet it does get old.
                But if you can't get a drum in the basement of drum won't clear it. It's good to know you have the pwer to get the job done.
                Last edited by UnClogNH; 02-12-2011, 10:40 PM.
                Rod
                MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
                Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
                http://unclognh.com
                http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

                Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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                • #83
                  Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                  Originally posted by UnClogNH View Post
                  Clicking and un-clicking cables is quick. I do admit over a 100 feet it does get old.
                  Your using eel cables right? Or Ridgid Pin Cables?
                  Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
                  You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

                  Derek

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                  • #84
                    Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                    Originally posted by dcman View Post
                    Your using eel cables right? Or Ridgid Pin Cables?
                    Eel 8 foot sections. IMHO are better than 10 footers for tight spaces
                    gives you a little more room to work. Nothing wrong with the 10 footers
                    I just find them easier to work with.
                    They un-click with a spanner wrench If you have them WD-40 good you can just snap to together.
                    It takes a lot to snap these cables. Gene has a video of a cable chained to a tree and the frame of his truck you should see what it takes to break these cables. Maybe if he reads this he will post it.
                    Last edited by UnClogNH; 02-12-2011, 10:47 PM.
                    Rod
                    MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
                    Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
                    http://unclognh.com
                    http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

                    Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                      Originally posted by UnClogNH View Post
                      Eel 8 foot sections. IMHO are better than 10 footers for tight spaces
                      gives you a little more room to work. Nothing wrong with the 10 footers
                      I just find them easier to work with.
                      Years ago when I moved back here...my boss at the time had a general 91 machine and a eel push machine...I used to the general and everybody else used the eel...I tried it and never could get used to the whole key release thing...in the cold weather and snow I remember they used to get a torch out and then un-click the cables...I always though OMG what a high maintenece way to clean a drain...As a side note I had to service the general before I used it the first time cause it had been bought and only used twice before that and then put away....as they realized that I could run a drum machine pretty good I ended up doing most the drains...then two years later when I took over I got rid of both setups and bought my K-7500....maybe those guys were retarded and couldn't teach me a good way to use eel and eel cables or and I think they were just inexperience at drain cleaning cause I seen a lot of bad habits from those guys...sorry I kinda went on a little too much...
                      Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
                      You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

                      Derek

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                      • #86
                        Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                        Yes the un-clicking of the eel cable Sucks. If it's winter and an outside clean out drum gets the call. 99% on my work is in basements or indoors and the joints thaw in about 10 minutes
                        Oh I found gene's video try this with a drum cable

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIzK0A5dLCE
                        Rod
                        MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
                        Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
                        http://unclognh.com
                        http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

                        Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                          Glad Gene made this Youtube video I thought these cables were tuff just not that tuff.
                          Rod
                          MT. Washington Sewer & Drain Cleaning
                          Serving Berlin, NH and North Conway, NH areas
                          http://unclognh.com
                          http://mtwashingtonseweranddrainclea...m/default.aspx

                          Charging less does not mean more call volume it just means you have to work harder to reach your goals.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                            I have no doubt these cables are tough...I have hooked up a cable (both types)somebody else got stuck...neither cable broke...I can remember the cables they were using here for eel were all bent to crap...I now wonder if they were cheap cables or they didn't take care of them...every shop I worked at taught drums...till this one...so still might just be I need a sectional teacher!!! I think somebody should write the Mythbusters to have them test all types of drain cables stress points.....
                            Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
                            You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

                            Derek

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                            • #89
                              Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                              Originally posted by Swade Plumbing View Post
                              Rick won't post a picture of the mythical 4X3 pear blade until his patent clears

                              just kidding.

                              I think it's a duracable blade that you have to take a dremel tool or die grinder to make fit on the 7/8" ridgid blade holder. I believe that it might be a little easier to mount on the Drain Cables Direct 7/8" holder though.

                              I'm going to order some duracable blades soon for this purpose (unless I can convince DCD to start making the offset blades!)


                              The 3" Spiral root saw is T-122. Here's the catalog page for the K-60 accessories. Use the 5 digit catalog # when ordering.

                              fhttp://ridgid.com/Download/K60Cables.pdf

                              The T-22 is a similar blade (different catalog # on the replacement blade to the T-122) but attaches to the 1.25" cables. I'd like to try and mount the 4" spiral blade (T-23) on a 7/8" holder, but I think that the blade is too wide. Might have to modify that one too.

                              I'm not sure which blade Rick is referring to that is 3.5". I know that they make a sawtooth blade for the 1500 that is 3.5" and i use that one all the time, but I' don't see a 3.5" spiral blade in the Ridgid catalog
                              a dremel or die grinder will work, but a mill is for production and consistency



                              some assorted 4'' and 4x3 cutters just milled ot to fit the k-60 cable connector.




                              could this be my new reverse cutter?


                              rick.
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                              Last edited by PLUMBER RICK; 02-13-2011, 10:01 AM.
                              phoebe it is

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                              • #90
                                Re: Alternative Sewer Machine

                                I am interested why they are on "backwards" ...compared to tradition cutters...because its a sectional?? Also I finally found a pic of your 'reverse auger' how did you get the cable to expand outwards?? When heated dirve something inside the cable??

                                I would like everyone who uses a K-60 and Timberwolf setup to let me me know which they like better and which they would have invested in first...thanks!
                                Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
                                You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

                                Derek

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