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  • wire nuts in a panel?

    I have a situation where I need to extend wires inside a panel to reach the breakers. can I use wire nuts?
    Brent

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    Re: wire nuts in a panel?

    yes

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    • #3
      Re: wire nuts in a panel?

      no you cannot use a panel as a junction box

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      • #4
        Re: wire nuts in a panel?

        Originally posted by filtarbmw View Post
        no you cannot use a panel as a junction box
        A panel is nothing but a big junction box. Yes, you can extend your wires with wirenuts.

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        • #5
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          filtarbmw is the looser

          Yes you can use wire nuts and splice the wire so it will reach a given breaker. Do keep things neat and tidy.

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          • #6
            Re: wire nuts in a panel?

            It's a myth that's been around for a long time, but yes you can use wire nuts inside a panel.
            Jim Don

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            • #7
              Re: wire nuts in a panel?

              Originally posted by Woussko View Post
              filtarbmw is the looser

              Yes you can use wire nuts and splice the wire so it will reach a given breaker. Do keep things neat and tidy.
              ...as apposed to the tighter?

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              • #8
                Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                One doesn't want loose nuts in the junction box.

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                • #9
                  Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                  Originally posted by tchads View Post
                  One doesn't want loose nuts in the junction box.
                  That would put me out of work!!!
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                  • #10
                    Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                    asked a sparky today and he said if it a new install the inspector will not like it

                    if you are changing out a panel it is ok but he would put a junction box out side the panel to do that that way it looks clean inside the panel and you dont have the chance of zapping your self .
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                    • #11
                      Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                      Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
                      asked a sparky today and he said if it a new install the inspector will not like it

                      if you are changing out a panel it is ok but he would put a junction box out side the panel to do that that way it looks clean inside the panel and you dont have the chance of zapping your self .
                      The inspector may not like it, but it also falls on his shoulders to present a code that says it can't be done, which said inspector will not find.

                      Jeff

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                      • #12
                        Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                        Originally posted by piette View Post
                        The inspector may not like it, but it also falls on his shoulders to present a code that says it can't be done, which said inspector will not find.

                        Jeff
                        but here it can be done
                        this is what the electrician said
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                        • #13
                          Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                          Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
                          but here it can be done
                          this is what the electrician said
                          anything can be done. as long as the authority having jurisdiction approves the appropriate safety measures were taken when doing whatever you're trying to shortcut says so in more big words in the code books its always good to ask the inspector what counter measures need to be taken if you intend on doing something thats not to code.. if he's going to approve it, he'll tell you what you need to do to have him approve it

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                          • #14
                            Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                            NO wirenuts , if you are short use a junction box 4x4 , 6x6 or 12x12 that way the inspector will approve...See the NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE 2002 ARTICLE 312.8 Enclosures for Switches or Overcurrent Devices shall not be used as junction boxs,auxiliary gutters or raceways for conductors feeding through or tapping off etc, etc, IT'S JUST NOT PROFESSIONAL

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                            • #15
                              Re: wire nuts in a panel?

                              Why not include the complete section?

                              312.8 Enclosures for Switches or Overcurrent Devices.
                              Enclosures for switches or overcurrent devices shall not be
                              used as junction boxes, auxiliary gutters, or raceways for
                              conductors feeding through or tapping off to other switches
                              or overcurrent devices, unless adequate space for this purpose
                              is provided. The conductors shall not fill the wiring
                              space at any cross section to more than 40 percent of the
                              cross-sectional area of the space, and the conductors,
                              splices, and taps shall not fill the wiring space at any cross
                              section to more than 75 percent of the cross-sectional area
                              of that space.

                              You have never had to move a breaker to another slot and have the wire too short?

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