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    Anybody have any recommendations or thoughts on wind power? I'm inspecting a small building wayyyyy in woods on a forest reservation and there's no electricity to the building. Getting city power is cost prohibitive and generators won't work as a long term solution because it's on top of a mountain and I have a hard time getting to this building and I'm driving a land rover. There is a solar panel that supplies power to a pump for a well but the solar cells have had a lot of problems and require lots of maintance which relalistically just isn't happening. One thing they do have is lots of wind so I was thinking of a wind turbine. All it would need to power is 4 ceiling fans and 8 fluorescent lights and the pump.

    I have the equipment to get the turbine up the mountain and placing it so movement won't be an issue. If anyone has any other thoughts, feel free to chime in.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    Re: Wind power-any thoughts?

    Originally posted by gear junkie View Post
    Anybody have any recommendations or thoughts on wind power? I'm inspecting a small building wayyyyy in woods on a forest reservation and there's no electricity to the building. Getting city power is cost prohibitive and generators won't work as a long term solution because it's on top of a mountain and I have a hard time getting to this building and I'm driving a land rover. There is a solar panel that supplies power to a pump for a well but the solar cells have had a lot of problems and require lots of maintance which relalistically just isn't happening. One thing they do have is lots of wind so I was thinking of a wind turbine. All it would need to power is 4 ceiling fans and 8 fluorescent lights and the pump.

    I have the equipment to get the turbine up the mountain and placing it so movement won't be an issue. If anyone has any other thoughts, feel free to chime in.
    It definitely can be done but you would need to store the power in banks of batteries and keep the solar for those days where there is not enough wind. Even with solar and wind you will have days without power unless you have a ridiculous number of batteries. I would also monitor your reserves and cut back on non essential power draws as your reserves drop.

    Mark
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      Re: Wind power-any thoughts?

      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
      Even with solar and wind you will have days without power unless you have a ridiculous number of batteries.

      Mark
      agreed, if they can design smaller storage or higher output like the nano solar they are working on now, it will be better,

      But now, I agree you need 10 gazillion batteries

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        Re: Wind power-any thoughts?

        When you say a gazillion, could you be more specific on the number? Any links available? The location of this building probably gets at least plenty of sunlight (trust me) and the wind blows very hard, I'll ask around and see if I can get an average wind speed.

        There are other building around there that have solar cells that are already powering the pumps but the issue is the maintance required. I was thinking maybe the turbine might be a little more trouble free.
        Buy cheap, buy twice.

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          Is it windy year round or just a few months out of the year?

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            I have solar panels for my off grid home, there are little or no maintenance on them. The batteries I have are the gel type so there is no maintenance there. I plan on putting in wind mainly for the winter do to lack of sunshine. Of what I have read the maintenance is a bit higher for wind, also you will need a dump load for all the power you don't use. Go to this sight and read up. http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/index.php
            Brian

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              My son has no electricity and he operates his whole house etc. on solar and wind. (of course, he lives in Az. so he has lots of solar. I don't know how many batteries he has for his main operation, but I do know he operates his garage/shop on one solar panel and two batteries. Just runs lights, a fan and and a few plugs. Power tools etc. are off the main system. His main system runs the whole house, pump, two refrigerators and a freezer, plus the milking machine etc. in the barn.

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                Re: Wind power-any thoughts?

                It is like with any Off grid system, you need first to know what you need, or how much you want to use, (electricity wise).

                then one needs to know the Average, wind speed for ones area, also the type of wind, steady or gusty or only once a week, or daily, are the wind speed in the design factors of the unit desired, (many shut down or stop producing in winds above 25 mph),
                are winds steady all 24 hrs, or only day light hrs, are they seasonal, what is the average low in the wind in days.

                and then you can start to choose the system, and the battery bank you will need,

                also the type of appliances/lights one chooses, can make a large difference in the power one needs,

                look in to led or low power consumption of lights,
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                you may want to look into a system of using a generator (diesel like, a Lister clone engine, extremely fuel efficient) and a generator (direct like a car, I would probably look into large air craft unit for more than 12 volt operation,), that charges a bank of batteries, that provide the bulk of the needs, and then a Alternator head, for normal 120/240 volt needs,

                you may only need an Hr of run time to charge the batteries for a days use of power, (some of the smaller units only use about 1/4 gallon of fuel at full load an hr.)

                then have a solar maintainer for the battery back when not there, if it is used seasonal, the worst thing one can do on a battery is to discharge the back blow design spec, and or then to leave it low. you can ruin a battery in days to even Hrs, that way.

                Lister type diesels will run on nearly any type of oil substance or blend of it, up to a extent, diesel kerosene, vegetable oils and bio fuels, blends of use motor oils and so on),

                some examples,
                http://www.otherpower.com/fuking.html
                http://www.psychicworldusa.com/Lister_Gen/Lister1.html
                http://www.oldengineshed.com/listgen.html

                http://www.generatorsales.com/LISTER_all11.asp?page=1
                http://www.generatorsales.com/LISTER_all111.asp?page=1
                http://www.generatorsales.com/order/lister_engines.asp
                some specs on the units and the fuel usage, per hr,
                http://www.generatorsales.com/order/Lister_Catalog.html
                there are a number of manufactures of the clone Lister engine, some are good and some are not as good, (I am not endorsing any of the above web sites jsut posted for information reasons),
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                  Re: Wind power-any thoughts?

                  The American Wind Energy Association (AWEA) has compiled the following list of U.S. manufacturers and suppliers of wind turbines for use in residential, farm, and commercial/industrial applications.

                  ttp://www.awea.org/smallwind/smsyslst.html


                  Here's a 1KW generator
                  http://www.bergey.com/

                  Wind & Solar Hybrid Systems
                  10.1 kW Hybrid.System
                  1.2 kW Hybrid.System
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                      Originally posted by DUNBAR View Post
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