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  • GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester bought for $.25 at garage sale.

    New in box.
    The two black wires from the surge arrester connect to the 120V lines.
    The white wire connects to Ground or Neutral.

    Can I connect it to the 120V lines through an unused 240V circuit breaker in the service entrance panel?
    (I replaced our electric stove top with gas, so the breaker is unneeded and switched off.)
    Then I would turn on the 240V circuit breaker.

    Otherwise, I do not know how to connect the stranded wires to the 120V lines.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by Robert Gift; 06-06-2012, 08:20 PM.
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    Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester bought for $.25 at garage sale.

    Yes, the two hots connect to a double-pole breaker. The instructions will tell you what size breaker to use. Don't just use an old 50A because you have it.

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    • #3
      Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester

      Originally posted by Speedy Petey View Post
      Yes, the two hots connect to a double-pole breaker. The instructions will tell you what size breaker to use. Don't just use an old 50A because you have it.
      Instructions (photocopied and some words missing!) say nothing of how/here to connect. Schematic just shows direct connecto the lines.
      I'd take an educated guess - but I'm unqualified.
      It ain't just soot, it's paydirt.
      "I swear, wherever Gift goes, argument follows." -Youtube comment

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      • #4
        Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester

        Then use a 2p15 or 2p20. These things typically have at least #12 leads.

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        • #5
          Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester

          This sounds interesting, can You Guys describe what this is ?
          I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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          • #6
            Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester

            This particular one is a low voltage (120V-600V) surge protector and is designed to help protect against either externally induced surges caused by lightning or utility switching, or internally generated switching surges. Here's an article:
            Secondary Surge Arrestors

            Before starting the outline of what a secondary surge arrester is it may help your understanding of the proper use of these and limitations of such devices to read what SQUARE D prints on the package for one of their secondary surge Arresters.

            "Designed to meet the requirements of NEC Article 280. Meets ANSI/IEEE Standard C62.11 for location Category C (Service Equipment). Helps protect electrical wiring and major appliances from damage caused by most sudden power surges that may be induced by lightning or utility switching transients." *

            * from: Cat. No. SDSA3650 SQUARE D COMPANY

            Inside the package the installation instructions further state the following:

            This secondary surge arrester will protect most secondary distribution wiring systems against surge-related damage but may not protect solid state or electronic equipment from all lightning induced or other large power surges." **

            ** from: Form 48040-989-02 REV. 4/93 SQUARE D COMPANY

            What does the above tell you? More information may help you. When the power company installs the electrical service to your building they have normally built in primary surge arresters as part of their equipment. If you look up on the power line system you will see fused links and arresters. The do this to protect their equipment (transformers, etc.) from damage.

            The installation of a "secondary surge arrester" more commonly known as a lightning arrester is required by electrical codes in most areas. These devices are usually a carbon block, gas tube or spark gap. The correct term for such devices is "crowbar" as they act like a short and by design short the surge to ground. This would be the perfect device if they could short all over voltage to ground. They do short the very high voltages to ground but what they do not do is short all the over voltage to ground.

            Now lets look at the wording of the above statements to see what the manufacturer is telling you about their product. Several words should set off alarms when you think about the statements. "Helps protect" not protects electrical wiring and major appliances from damage.." "But may not protect solid state or electronic equipment....". They are telling you to know the limits of protection the secondary sure arrester offers.

            Secondary arresters are not tested nor do they claim to be TVSS devices. What they are is minimal service entrance protection for high voltage wiring and devices. We test both "secondary surge arrester" and TVSS devices and find the average pass voltage of a "secondary surge arrester" to be in well in excess of 2,000 - 3,000 volts when tested to the ANSI/IEEE B-3 impulse wave form. This is the same test as used by Underwriter’s Laboratories for the UL 1449 test when testing panel and other hardwire TVSS devices for high voltage (120 VAC and above).

            The high pass voltage and very low energy rating of these devices should warn the user to use high quality main and sub panel TVSS devices behind the secondary surge arrester.

            Secondary surge arresters offer minimal protection to almost any electrical or electronic device. Few if any electrical devices do not have "electronic" components. Today even hot water heaters and HVAC systems (Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning ) have solid state controls. These control systems are much more efficient and less costly to produce. They offer more and better control to the consumer as well as a multitude of remote monitoring and control options.

            If you are familiar with the energy control devices installed by Florida Power, Florida Power and Light and other utility companies you will understand the control aspect. With a small microprocessor located in your home the power company and control your HVAC system, water heater and swimming pool pump. When peak load demands exceed their ability to produce power they turn off you systems from a control point on their own electrical grid. This is electronic control of high voltage loads. Companies such as Taco Bell monitor and control the HVAC systems and other circuits in their restaurants by modem all over this country. These systems use sensitive computer chips to run high voltage systems. The benefit is less power consumption and a reduced bottom line to them. The down side can be damage to the control systems from surges and spikes on the power lines.

            When you think about electrical systems today you can not escape solid state (microprocessor) controls. If you only protect a service entrance with a secondary surge arrester you are not protecting even the "high voltage" loads. Name 5 modern high voltage appliances or devices you could purchase for your own home that do not use some form of solid state control device or component. You will not find five and you will be hard pressed to name any.

            The secondary sure arrester can be used as part of your power protection system. It is not the only device to be used but can act as the second line of defense after the power company installed arrester. These devices are being required by code more each day so you will see more of them installed. The key is don’t stop your power protection plan with the installation of a secondary surge arrester.
            Last edited by killavolt; 06-07-2012, 01:22 PM. Reason: Added an article

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            • #7
              Re: GE Tranquell® Secondary Arrester

              most likely the "surge protector" is more designed for motor type loads not electronics,

              It will help if you have a near hit on lighting, it may keep one for loosing your water pump, refrigerator freezer, and AC and other similar items, but I would not do away with the surge protector on your computer, TV. or other items that have micro circuit boards in them,

              we have had the "surge/ lightning protectors" in the well house, when you have a water well, that 300 foot deep steel pipe setting in water, makes a wonder ground path for where lighting wants to go, as well as the wires going down to the submersible pump, and they help if you have a near miss,

              it is kinda exciting to see the "spark arrestors" arc on the power pole during a lightning storm,

              I would most likely put it in the circuit, as it will not hurt any thing but it may not protect as much as you want it,

              Secondary 120 to 600V - Product Information
              directions
              http://www.geindustrial.com/publibra...sec-manual|PDF
              sales info,
              http://www.geindustrial.com/publibra...es|sec_arr|PDF

              this one claims it will not be damaged by a over load, (I have seen the little can blow off the unit, may not have been the same type tho)
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