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  • RedRado03
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    Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    I had a Hose bibb that was dripping pretty good. Went and picked up a couple 3/4" hose bibbs to replace it and after finally being able to get it off, I found out that I had fine thread and looks nothing like the one I bought. I assume that when my house was built 2 years ago that they sodered my faucet on and even filled in with mortar that I will never be able to remove it without extra costs to replace it with a course threaded one. Is this normal?? Where do I buy these things? What will I need to do if I damaged the thread taking it off?

  • ToUtahNow
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by RedRado03 View Post
    I believe it is a arrowhead sillcock from the pictures online and guys in this post telling me. The pipe Im talking about is the one right behind the flange. I have posted a pic earlier in the post.
    It sounds like there might be a brass nipple attaching the sill cock to the piping in the wall. It would not be uncommon for the nipple to unscrew instead of the sill cock. If the plumber installed the pipes in the wall correctly the nipple should be able to be removed with the sill cock without the pipes in the wall moving.

    Once you get the nipple with sill cock removed as a single piece you can unscrew the nipple from the sill cock and re use it with the new sill cock.

    Mark

    Disclaimer: If it is not really a nipple but a CXMIP adapter you might have to open the wall to make the repair.

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  • RedRado03
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    I believe it is a arrowhead sillcock from the pictures online and guys in this post telling me. The pipe Im talking about is the one right behind the flange. I have posted a pic earlier in the post.

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  • Bob D.
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Is this a frost-proof hydrant? Can you see what it looks like from the inside of the wall like from the basement or crawl space? You say threaded copper pipe I am thinking this might be brass (looks like copper as it is very close in color) pipe and part of a frost-proof wall hydrant as opposed to a hose bibb. There is probably some confusion here in terminology. Some areas of the country will refer to what I call a frost-proof hydrant as a hose bibb. To me a hose bibb is an angled globe valve with a hose thread on the spout and a flanged 3/4 or 1/2" FM pipe connection on the back.

    I don't know whose web page this is but I just happened upon it first thing when I went searching just now. It just happens to show a hose bibb (first photo) and a hydrant (second photo).
    http://home.flash.net/~carlton2/construc.htm

    Notice the brass pipe used in the hydrant? Is this what you are saying is turning (or looks like it will turn) when you try to remove the valve?
    Last edited by Bob D.; 06-06-2007, 08:34 PM. Reason: fixed some typos

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  • RedRado03
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    So I chiseled away the mortar to see what I was working with today. I can see threads in between the sill and brick. I tried to turn it (gently) but the pipe is just twisting with it. To me it just looks like a copper pipe w/ threads. I dont even know if they make anything like that. So is this piece of pipe supposed to come out with it? What do I need to do if I cant get it to turn at the sill without that pipe moving with it?

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  • BHD
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    When you replace it I would suggest using some pipe Dope on the threads of the pipe before you put the new one on, other wise you many end up with a small leak in the wall,
    The reason I did not suggest tape is It may be hard to put Teflon tape on the pipe in the wall. if you can get to it the tape will work also.

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  • ToUtahNow
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by Aaron91 View Post
    Yes, that's your vacuum breaker but I don't understand our problem now, is it finding a new vacuum breaker?
    He damaged is vacuum breaker while trying to replace it. Becuae it is an Arrowhead brand it is not a standard vacuum breaker. Now his option are to either buy a new sill cock and strip the vacuum breaked off or replace the entire sill cock with the new one.

    Mark
    Last edited by ToUtahNow; 06-06-2007, 05:31 PM.

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  • Aaron91
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Yes, that's your vacuum breaker but I don't understand our problem now, is it finding a new vacuum breaker?

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  • PLUMBER RICK
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    Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
    I think you may be right based on the no-kink design. I'm pretty certain it is just an IPS but if I don't add the disclaimer I will catch heck.

    Mark
    at least it's heck for you, i wouldn't hear the end of this if i told him it was simple and fool proof to unscrew from a brick wall.

    i would catch s**t

    rick.

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  • ToUtahNow
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    I think you may be right based on the no-kink design. I'm pretty certain it is just an IPS but if I don't add the disclaimer I will catch heck.

    Mark

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  • PLUMBER RICK
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
    Not so quick Rick. The frost-proof sill cock looks identical and is available in both IPS and Copper. I think the connection on the frost-proof ranges from 4"-8".

    Mark

    not being an expert in frost proof since i live in sunny sourthern calif

    i am looking at the handle position and would find it hard to believe it can be frost proof

    what do you think mark you have cold weather in your neck of the woods and utah too

    rick.

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  • RedRado03
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    I understand. I'm getting sick of thinking about it too. And I think its about that time to the bedroom and pursue my passion. I really appreciate all the posts and will definatley add this to my favorites. I'll let it be for now and try to unscrew it tomorrow and hope I dont bust a pipe.

    Thanks ALL,

    Mike

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  • ToUtahNow
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
    the picture you posted is of a fip wall cock

    meaning that it has a female iron pipe thread. very simple to unscrew and replace. just don't break it off in the wall

    rick.

    replace the entire faucet and you're good to go.

    this has got to be the fastest and most responses to an issue here ever. 38 post in a matter of minutes. wow very impressive guys
    Not so quick Rick. The frost-proof sill cock looks identical and is available in both IPS and Copper. I think the connection on the frost-proof ranges from 4"-8".

    Mark

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  • PLUMBER RICK
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by RedRado03 View Post
    Is there a particular method to this? clockwise, counter clockwise?
    lefty loosy, righty tighty

    turn it counterclockwise to unscrew.

    use caution so as not to break it off in the wall.

    personally, you might want to hire a pro. you already did a great job with id ing it. don't ruin it by breaking in the wall and having no water till it's fixed.


    rick

    another satisfied customer on the ridgid site

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  • ToUtahNow
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    Re: Fine thread Hose Bibb???

    Originally posted by BAPlumber View Post
    I think we're tired of reading and posting about flat rate, and want to get back to our real passion.
    LOL - As funny as that was it was true.

    Mark

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