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  • #16
    Re: Toughest Plumbing Code

    Right, here we mostly use Burnham or Weil Mc Lain...Buderus, Viessman, Munchkin and a few others are in pursuit of the high end market.
    The fact that our local gas co offers substantial rebates on high AFUE boilers has been making them popular where some models run in the upper 90% range.
    We also get good rebates on tankless and indirect...I've been doing alot of Superstor (same mfg as munchkin) and boilermate's.

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    • #17
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      I wish they were giving us rebates on the tankless...They're a prettytough sell for me because of the high initial cost, i think the customers would be alot more willing to get them....There was a call back on the weil-mclain ultra series boiler, not sure if you guys were affected but i know a guy who installed one the week befoe the call back...
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      • #18
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        Big Pipe -

        I don't understand why they wouldn't allow a waste line on an outside wall. Is it because it has the potential to freeze that fast?

        I can understand why they wouldn't want a trap on an outside wall..but a regular waste line has me scratching my head.

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        • #19
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          Most parts of canada get to -30 regularly in the winter,even colder in alot of places. A frozen drain line is no stretch
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          • #20
            Re: Toughest Plumbing Code

            Originally posted by bigPipe09 View Post
            Most parts of canada get to -30 regularly in the winter,even colder in alot of places. A frozen drain line is no stretch
            -30? God bless ya brother! I promise I'll never complain again, when it's 15 degrees outside where I live.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by Ozone89 View Post
              -30? God bless ya brother! I promise I'll never complain again, when it's 15 degrees outside where I live.
              LOL...I lived in Maine for a year....got to -10 regularly...Canada's waaaayyy more north.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by bigPipe09 View Post
                I wish they were giving us rebates on the tankless...They're a prettytough sell for me because of the high initial cost, i think the customers would be alot more willing to get them....There was a call back on the weil-mclain ultra series boiler, not sure if you guys were affected but i know a guy who installed one the week befoe the call back...
                I do Burnham...though Weil Mac. is almost as popular, I stay with what I'm familiar with.

                How did that work out?
                Weil reimburse him for the install?

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                • #23
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                  I think it was an orifice problem, and they just sent him the new orifices to install on his own volition. That was probably fun explaining to the customer why he had to shut down the system for half a day to change out the orifices a week after the boilers went in.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Toughest Plumbing Code

                    Illinois has it's own code. It is fairly restrictive. Cook County (Chicago) has a much more restrictive code. No pvc in commercial, pvc is allowed for residential 3 flats and smaller. You can't even use no hub on the cast iron, it is still caulk joints.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Toughest Plumbing Code

                      Thats outrageous. No hub is efficient and effective.
                      You guys dont still caulk with lead do ya?
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                      • #26
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                        Did the codes change Bogart ? I've built over 200 homes in southern Cook county using compression gaskets for my ground work ? THey all passed inspection . Is poly allowed there yet for gas or is it all black underground.

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                        • #27
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                          Gaskets are used underground. Above ground it's lead and oakum. I don't know what they use for gas. Some of the towns in Cook County don't let you use pvc anywhere, even residential.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Bogart View Post
                            Gaskets are used underground. Above ground it's lead and oakum. I don't know what they use for gas. Some of the towns in Cook County don't let you use pvc anywhere, even residential.
                            That sounds like Mafia,I would rather see lead and oakum in the soil,neoprene in the walls

                            Do you have any idea why they require this?

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Bogart View Post
                              Gaskets are used underground. Above ground it's lead and oakum. I don't know what they use for gas. Some of the towns in Cook County don't let you use pvc anywhere, even residential.
                              Darn, I though NJ was backward and we dropped the lead & oakum
                              requirement about 27 years ago. It's still allowed as far as I know,
                              but hardly anyone uses it anymore except on rare occasions. When
                              I think about all the time I spent hovering around a lead pot and
                              breathing in all those nice fumes...man, the good old days weren't
                              so good for ya were they?? On a big job we'd be running 12" XH in the
                              ditch, those fumes had no where to go. Then you'd be hanging over
                              the pipe caulking the joint with your face only inches away from the
                              still hot lead and you could smell the oil in the oakum and hear it sizzling.
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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
                                That sounds like Mafia,I would rather see lead and oakum in the soil,neoprene in the walls

                                Do you have any idea why they require this?
                                i believe it's a union thing. pretty much what you said

                                i think new york is the same

                                why do you think us Californians can't use pex

                                rick.
                                phoebe it is

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