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    I inherited a rather dilapidated 2-story row house and I'm trying to rehab the property to rent it out.

    A plumber with a fancy camera gizmo has shown me a 6" crack in the seam of the cast iron stack pipe so I really do have to get it fixed.

    But all the plumbers who have given me estimates have taken one look at me (a schoolteacher) and I can feel the price go up.

    The plumber who opened up the wall and found the crack charged me $65/hr. (standard, I think)

    I believe the stack ties into only an existing sink, tub, and toilet on the second floor. So I guess that means it's a wet area (?). The stack and all the tie ins are easily accessible through a wall and 1st floor ceiling.

    I've researched on the Internet and have seen that I can get it welded or get a "saddle clamp" or use epoxy putty. Are these options I can use?

    How much should I really spend to repair or replace on a stack pipe from the basement connection straight up to the 2nd floor plumbing?

    This Pauline is in peril!

  • #2
    Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

    Pauline in peril,

    Don't bother with the weld or clamp neither is a permanent fix.

    Epoxy if you must...... but only til you can have it replaced.

    Pictures would help us get you a ballpark what it should cost.

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    • #3
      Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

      replace the pipe it will be better in the long run

      $65 an hr is not bad so pay it and do the job right
      Charlie

      My seek the peek fundraiser page
      http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


      http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

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      • #4
        Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

        65 is a VERY good price.
        Also, points about welding/saddle clamps aside...the welder would likely cost you even more.
        Saddle clamps are a horendous idea, as is the thought of attempting to weld to a stack thats already cracking...telltale sign of future trouble.
        You'd be paying dearly to fix a rust spot on a 30 year old Ford in a manner of speaking.

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        • #5
          Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

          $65 an hour, for around here is a decent rate buddy. Your paying for his experience, to have it done right, hopefully the first time, and peace of mind.

          Btw I live in Anne Arundel County.
          Proud To Be Union!!

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          • #6
            Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

            Point taken (about the Ford).

            Can I ask for a cast iron replacement pipe instead of PCV to save money?

            How much labor can I do myself? Demo the wall?

            I hate to sound like a cheapo but I have soooooo much work to do in this house that I am trying to find options and alternatives.

            I'll borrow a digital camera and get some photos online as soon as I can.

            This forum is a GREAT HELP and ALL suggestions are welcome.

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            • #7
              Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

              Cast iron is more expensive than PVC, materially and labor wise.

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              • #8
                Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                I'm not a plumber but i would think cast would cost more then PVC

                and yes if you ask the plumber you are using to let you know what they need taking out I'm sure they will let you know .and make sure they know that you are trying to save $ and not to include your part in there price .

                if you can waite to get the work done until post pictures and get some advice before you talk to the plumbers
                Charlie

                My seek the peek fundraiser page
                http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


                http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

                new work pictures 12/09
                http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/

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                • #9
                  Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                  Thats one of my most dreaded requests.
                  Homeowners asking me to reduce the price if they demo.
                  Show up to do the work and a 45 year old woman huffin, puffin, sweating and loaded with dirt, all to have to explain that the hole isn't big enough.
                  I don't do it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                    but some people dont have the $ so if it helps them out . but if the plumbers cost to do it is nit to much then let them do it and you can stay clean
                    Charlie

                    My seek the peek fundraiser page
                    http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


                    http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

                    new work pictures 12/09
                    http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/

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                    • #11
                      Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                      LOL I love it! That really made me laugh! You've got it right (45 year old woman huffin, puffin, sweating and loaded with dirt) and the mental picture of that made me ......eh......pause......to reflect.

                      I think I'll stay clean and out of the way of the experts. Maybe I can lay tile instead. HA!

                      Look for an update with pictures next week!

                      Thanks everyone! I’ll be in touch.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                        The $65 is a low rate,If this is verticle You will be in trouble if 300 lbs of cast
                        severs Your fingers ,as it drops. You're over Your head! Save $$ on the paint job!
                        I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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                        • #13
                          Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                          Originally posted by Pauline View Post
                          LOL I love it! That really made me laugh! You've got it right (45 year old woman huffin, puffin, sweating and loaded with dirt) and the mental picture of that made me ......eh......pause......to reflect.

                          I think I'll stay clean and out of the way of the experts. Maybe I can lay tile instead. HA!

                          Look for an update with pictures next week!

                          Thanks everyone! I’ll be in touch.
                          glad we can help you out ,do check back in
                          Charlie

                          My seek the peek fundraiser page
                          http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


                          http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

                          new work pictures 12/09
                          http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/

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                          • #14
                            Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                            Originally posted by Pauline View Post
                            I inherited a rather dilapidated 2-story row house and I'm trying to rehab the property to rent it out.

                            A plumber with a fancy camera gizmo has shown me a 6" crack in the seam of the cast iron stack pipe so I really do have to get it fixed.

                            But all the plumbers who have given me estimates have taken one look at me (a schoolteacher) and I can feel the price go up.

                            The plumber who opened up the wall and found the crack charged me $65/hr. (standard, I think)

                            I believe the stack ties into only an existing sink, tub, and toilet on the second floor. So I guess that means it's a wet area (?). The stack and all the tie ins are easily accessible through a wall and 1st floor ceiling.

                            I've researched on the Internet and have seen that I can get it welded or get a "saddle clamp" or use epoxy putty. Are these options I can use?

                            How much should I really spend to repair or replace on a stack pipe from the basement connection straight up to the 2nd floor plumbing?

                            This Pauline is in peril!
                            Hi Pauline,

                            $65.00 per hr seems very,very cheap ( I pay my mechanics $45 per hr an helpers start off @$20) not including benifits

                            You as a school teacher should consider what you actually make with benifits like retirement package, sick days and all the stuff you may have taken for granted like hospitalization.

                            I cannot see how any licensed and insured contractor using expensive equipment can afford to even mumble $65. per hr

                            I would strongly suggest you ask to see a license

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                            • #15
                              Re: Saddle Clamp for stack pipe?

                              Originally posted by Sylvan Tieger View Post
                              Hi Pauline,

                              $65.00 per hr seems very,very cheap ( I pay my mechanics $45 per hr an helpers start off @$20) not including benifits

                              You as a school teacher should consider what you actually make with benifits like retirement package, sick days and all the stuff you may have taken for granted like hospitalization.

                              I cannot see how any licensed and insured contractor using expensive equipment can afford to even mumble $65. per hr

                              I would strongly suggest you ask to see a license
                              Valid point.
                              I'll say this:
                              You've been frustrated by plumbers from other area's assumptions regarding you're NYC pricing.
                              On the other hand, Baltimore is expensive, as is the cost of doing buz there.
                              She should check to be sure she has a legitimately licensed/insured plumber.
                              I get them all the time, homeowners who go with the lowest price, not realizing they may have a hack.
                              After the fact, the repairs usually out-cost the initial work.

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