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  • #16
    Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

    Originally posted by oldslowchevy View Post
    Thought for the day:
    "There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2030, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them.
    "
    Classic George Carlin!

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    • #17
      Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

      [quote=Sylvan Tieger;94592]Well If if snake /water jet a line and tell the folks I removed MUD/ rocks etc and explained to them the pipe in question is in dire need of repair /replacement and they say "ILL get back to you and it happens in a few days later then they pay again... its a per job judgment call.


      HEY LETS FOLLOW JOSH'S POST!!!
      And agree that any call back any of us do is our own business
      call we each have to make ourself's and not argue about it!!!

      it's all depends on how we want to run our services, i have work with co's that had very stated policy's but there is always exceptions to any rule,

      JERRYMAC
      JERRYMAC
      E-MAILJERRYMAC777@GMAIL.COM
      CALIF. LIC. PLBG,HEAT,DRAINS,ELECTRIC,WATER HEATER, BOILER, POOL AND SPA HEATER
      FIRE SPRINKLER CONTRACTOR,
      SINCE JAN. 1989

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      • #18
        Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

        Originally posted by MrsSeatDown View Post

        There is a good guy trapped somewhere inside of dog. I will not say that about everyone.

        Joey
        In my opinion the Dog, whose tongue is honed to a razors edge from years of suffering fools, dispenses opinions he deems most fit. just like a doctor dispensing medicine some is bitter to the taste. but the best way to judge a man is by those who call him friend, and since Plumber Rick (the one I both like and respect most on this forum) calls him friend he is ok in my book. plus he sometimes single handedly staves off monotony from infecting the forum. I don't at all mind his sunny disposition (albeit the surface of the sun), I and others look forward to his opinions.

        bill
        Last edited by BILLG; 09-17-2007, 11:00 PM.

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        • #19
          Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

          Thank's Joey . Some men make comments to Me on this this computer They would never say to Me ,If I was next to them! They would be on the ground fast.
          This is not any threat,It's who I am. The only option I have here, is to comment in return. If this is a problem I'll take a hike!
          I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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          • #20
            Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

            Sylvan,
            have you tried typing in a normal sized font consistently. People CAN still read 12 or 14 pt font. I care less about what you say than most others, if anything you should reduce your font size.
            West Trail Mechanical Ltd
            Service. Commitment. Expertise.

            www.westtrailmechanical.ca

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            • #21
              Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

              Originally posted by bigPipe09 View Post
              Sylvan,
              have you tried typing in a normal sized font consistently. People CAN still read 12 or 14 pt font. I care less about what you say than most others, if anything you should reduce your font size.
              amen , no need to show off or try to prove a point .


              cant we all just get along
              Charlie

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              • #22
                Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                But....you know what they say about a man with big font?..right?...right?

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                • #23
                  Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                  Originally posted by DuckButter View Post
                  But....you know what they say about a man with big font?..right?...right?
                  That he's blind
                  Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                    Originally posted by toolaholic View Post
                    Thank's Joey . Some men make comments to Me on this this computer They would never say to Me ,If I was next to them! They would be on the ground fast.
                    This is not any threat,It's who I am. The only option I have here, is to comment in return. If this is a problem I'll take a hike!
                    I think I missed something here

                    Joey
                    I love my plumber

                    "My Hero"

                    Welcome, Phoebe Jacqueline!

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                    • #25
                      Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                      Can't all of us just try to get along? Let the crazy fools make total @$$es of themselves and just laugh and ignore them. They will leave if we just pretend they never posted at all.

                      Or maybe it's time for everyone to try some good old howling?

                      ARRRROOOOOOOOOOOOO
                      ooooooooooooooooooooooo
                      If that doesn't help then just take a little vacation in some really nice area for a day or two. I sure need to take a vacation myself and soon.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                        All this wasted nonsense, is this actually getting anywhere, other than making this site look crappy. If you don't like the person, as this was said sooooo many times before, just add him or her to your ignore list and move on. I'm sorry to say this, but this is getting really old and going nowhere, nice try Josh........
                        Great Link for a Construction Owner/Tradesmen, and just say Garager sent you....

                        http://www.contractorspub.com

                        A good climbing rope will last you 3 to 5 years, a bad climbing rope will last you a life time !!!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                          I realize everyone wants to defend themselves and have the last word... just let this go. This was a moving on thread. And yes garager stated it well.. Just stick people on your ignore list if you cant stand them. thats what is there for. Lets start over and move on from here. Any more fighting back and forth and I have to assume that your purpose for being on this board is wrong. lets talk about the trades!

                          Josh

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                          • #28
                            Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                            Originally posted by Josh View Post
                            I felt that I need to post this as we are getting a few threads where there is more conflict than answers to a question.

                            This board is comprised primarily of people who pride themselves on an honest days work and treating their customers fairly. The trade's reputation rides on every representative that works in it. Hard working (yet still well paid) plumbers dont have to advertise or trick their way into pay. Honesty and Integrity get you the job and the callbacks.

                            So some new members are getting real defensive after other members attack them on their business practices. Apart from talking about how much you make I think most everyone on here has a lot to contribute. So heres a general rule of thumb. If your proud enough about how much you make that you would post it on a public board then you probably shouldnt be posting it.

                            Also... if you are here to brag about taking advantage of a customer (regardless of how rich they are) then I would rather you find another board, you're a pore representation of your trade and of the ridgidforum. I really care about the members on this forum and I am glad their is conflict when someone is taking the low road. So please remember ethics are highly respected here while underhanded greed is going to get you disliked quickly.

                            Some of you are struggling with the 2 concepts above yet still have some great knowledge to contribute to the forum. So heres what we do. Lets start over, everyone give the new guys a second chance and new guys please try to keep the two bold points above in mind when posting and I think we will be fine.

                            Josh
                            agreed Josh.....i never came on here to stir up controversy,but when someone replied negatively to my post i just thought i would address it. actually i was laughing at alot of the 'other-guys' postings ....but i do agree with you to chill-out.........Thank you.

                            Tony

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                            • #29
                              Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                              lonestardrain just let it go, come down off the clock tower, the waters fine
                              http://www.all-clear-sewer.com/

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                              • #30
                                Re: Board Morals - avoiding conflict

                                Originally posted by DuckButter View Post
                                Good move Josh,
                                It was getting rediculous.
                                Most people flare on politics or religion, yet for some reason rates/money are the trigger here.
                                One of the hardest, most nailbiting experiences early in self employment are rates, and how to charge.
                                When I first started, I found myself adding receipts and checks at jobs end with remorse over lack of earnings, still occasionally happens.
                                I'd bid low for lack of confidence, or fear of not getting the work and regret it after.
                                Meanwhile under-cutting the competition.
                                Thanks to painful experience, I have since learned it best to walk away as I learned the price game.
                                The experiences of others is a less painful process.
                                For most of us, comparison through peers is VERY helpful, but it seems that topic has had a negative effect here on numerous occasions.
                                Thats unfortunate, specifically where this forum has the "Ridgid" name, a veritable magnet for our line of work.
                                I'd hoped this forum to be the fore-runner in online discussion on relative topics for a sol-prop plumber like myself (at one point even mentioning a closed forum), for those of us with little more than the line at the plumbing supply for discussion on pertinent information relative to our livelyhood.
                                It would seem the subject matter has been constricted over ethical distaste and emotional entropy.
                                Duck,

                                That's a well written response, and a great analysis of the forum. I myself, as most would know, am guilty of acidic comments and abusive behavior. But like you, I've always seen this forum as having the potential of being a networking place for contractors and plumbing professionals. At times I get frustrated with the "I'm remodeling my house, how do I rough-in a bathroom?" questions. I just feel that that is a slap in the face to real plumbers. It basically says: "Anyone can do your trade, you guys get paid for what I can learn in a paragraph on a discussion forum." That frustration plays out into sometimes distasteful comments by myself.

                                But what is the alternative. Restricting freedom of expression has never been the policy of Josh. Although I have always argued that I should be able to use the word *** (it will be censored). It is the critical American question: At what point do we protect our right to protection, over the other's right to express their ideas. I think Ridgid, under the administration of Josh has done an outstanding job of balancing the rights of all.

                                I can tell you this, this forum is the most outstanding forum for plumbers I have ever found on the internet. You can go to the "Terry Love" forum and find hacks. You can go to Sylvan's forum which is a complete joke, you can go to the other forum Sylvan and others belong to on Yahoo Groups and find you can't get on unless they approve of you.

                                I myself welcome your comments on this forum, weather I agree with them or not, and enjoy the free forum of ideas Ridgid has provided, including my comments bashing them for outsourcing their manufacturing.

                                It's not perfect, but like America, it's my home.

                                Just my opinion.
                                the dog

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