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    In my many months of reading this forum I've yet to see anybody ask or comment on getting a delta cartridge out of a shower valve when the retaining ring is corroded on. Without disturbing the3 little prongs of course. I've got a good way to do it but what the heck you guys may have a better way. I'm always ready to learn. Besides I already talked about bidets today .

    Replacing the whole valve is a job I don't like, but home owners insist on twisting the little prongs then calling me.

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    I go with hope and pray.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    • #3
      Re: Never saw it brought up

      Originally posted by saysflushable View Post
      In my many months of reading this forum I've yet to see anybody ask or comment on getting a delta cartridge out of a shower valve when the retaining ring is corroded on. Without disturbing the3 little prongs of course. I've got a good way to do it but what the heck you guys may have a better way. I'm always ready to learn. Besides I already talked about bidets today .

      Replacing the whole valve is a job I don't like, but home owners insist on twisting the little prongs then calling me.
      I have always credited the forum with always being there on the spot.

      Don't tell me I'm going to learn the trick AFTER I twisted that lame off

      I heated it,tapped it with a hammer and anvil(another hammer) and pulled the plastic front cartridge bushing out.

      Whatever

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        Re: Never saw it brought up

        Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
        I have always credited the forum with always being there on the spot.

        Don't tell me I'm going to learn the trick AFTER I twisted that lame off

        I heated it,tapped it with a hammer and anvil(another hammer) and pulled the plastic front cartridge bushing out.

        Whatever
        Never broke one yet but they sure used to make me nervous. Still do.

        I cut them off with a small lenox hack saw I'm just careful not to touch the threads ----- cut a while, stick screw driver in slot twist---repeat until loose.

        The big brass rings on 1300 and 1700 take 5 min. tops. the small chrome rings are a pain and take forever or about 15 min which ever comes first.

        Cutting the top of the ring has to be done on a hard angle.


        never thought of the 2 hammers, I'll try them sometime

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          Re: Never saw it brought up

          Originally posted by saysflushable View Post
          Never broke one yet but they sure used to make me nervous. Still do.

          I cut them off with a small lenox hack saw I'm just careful not to touch the threads ----- cut a while, stick screw driver in slot twist---repeat until loose.

          The big brass rings on 1300 and 1700 take 5 min. tops. the small chrome rings are a pain and take forever or about 15 min which ever comes first.

          Cutting the top of the ring has to be done on a hard angle.


          never thought of the 2 hammers, I'll try them sometime
          Makes sense to me.I'll never shear one off again without trying to cut it first.Thanks for the tip SF

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            Re: Never saw it brought up

            I've used the Dremel with a carbide wheel to cut through the cap - again, without damaging the threads. Sometimes you can't get the handle off, either, so I just carry replacement caps.

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              Originally posted by Herk View Post
              I've used the Dremel with a carbide wheel to cut through the cap - again, without damaging the threads. Sometimes you can't get the handle off, either, so I just carry replacement caps.
              Thanks Herk ..I never thought of a dremel, might work alot better on the small chrome ones I bet. The handles get cut off with a Hack saw right behind the fasener ie. Phillips screw or set screw. right through the brass stem.

              I hope someone out there has a magic formula. or special tool that works better than our way of cutting.

              I'm sure one day I'll cut a little to deep and end up replacing the valve.

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                Re: Never saw it brought up

                PB Blaster first.
                Let it set in for 5, then try removing before cutting/notching...sometimes it works.

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                • #9
                  Re: Never saw it brought up

                  like herk i use a dremel, only i use 2"+ cut off wheel.i cut at a sharp angle. i don' worry about cutting the threads. i just lather up both the male and the female threads with laco slic-tite. never had a leak yet. used that on steam. works like a charm.

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                  • #10
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                    Like DB does but with Free-All, then I use two wrenches; one to hold the body and one to turn the bonnet.


                    If your hands are strong enough, you can oval that bonnet slightly, do it in 3 different spots so it rounds back out and the nut will unfreeze from the body.

                    It will however make it hard to put back on, that's when you have a new nut handy.


                    I've never broke one yet, almost cross-threaded one back on by making the assembly ovaled but I didn't have an extra bonnet nut to put back on.


                    When I state oval, I'm not talking more than a 1/16". Heat will make it come off as well on the 600 series valve, along with the monitor series.
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