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  • #46
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    I told you not to talk about that. G14 classified.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    • #47
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      Originally posted by gear junkie View Post
      Thanks Bill for the critism and I really mean that. I didn't post these pics to stroke my ego. I never worked with other civilian plumbers before. I did plumbing for the navy or by myself as a sub, so no one ever challenged me to do better as a plumber. Guys, even if you think your comment is nitpicky, tell me. I need this type of critique to make myself a better plumber.
      The valve on the exp tank is excessive IMO. May not be allowed by IPC. Still not clear on that yet.

      Gauge on tempered water

      Figures....engineers specing $75 gauges on a 40 gallon heater

      The outlet in the middle is a 3/4" plug. Take that out with a 1/2" drive and put a temp well there

      It's not required but I got into the habit of putting vacuum reliefs on all electric heaters whether they are in attic or not. Watts 36A?

      Negative pressure will syphon the water out of the heater and burn the elements. It's cheaper than a new element. Surprised engineers didn't spec that as well

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      • #48
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        I guess the G in G14 stands for Gear Junkie?! Haha.

        I purposely didn't say too much, didn't wanna steal your thunder.
        Proud To Be Union!!

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        • #49
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          Originally posted by plumberscrack View Post
          The valve on the exp tank is excessive IMO. May not be allowed by IPC. Still not clear on that yet. Couldn't find it in ipc.

          Gauge on tempered water

          Figures....engineers specing $75 gauges on a 40 gallon heater That's nothing, they called for ss thermometer wells which by themself cost 115 for 2 of them. Brass-$19.

          The outlet in the middle is a 3/4" plug. Take that out with a 1/2" drive and put a temp well there Isn't that the anode rod?

          It's not required but I got into the habit of putting vacuum reliefs on all electric heaters whether they are in attic or not. Watts 36A? Never heard of this. Thanks, learned something new

          Negative pressure will syphon the water out of the heater and burn the elements. It's cheaper than a new element. Surprised engineers didn't spec that as well shouldn't a backflow preventer solve this? Where would the negative pressure come from.
          Thanks again
          Buy cheap, buy twice.

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          • #50
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            Thanks for making this thread, I learned several things from it.
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            • #51
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              The anode should be off center. Middle should be a plug with 1/2" drive socket.

              With a heater in the attic, main water was shut off and faucet open, syphoning occurs.

              The hole in the dip tube doesn't provide enough protection for me on the syphoning

              Couldn't find the 36A on the Watts site

              I'm sure the number is right

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              • #52
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                Bill, you were close it's an N36.

                http://www.watts.com/pro/_productsFu...&pid=815&ref=2
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                • #53
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                  ben the thermometer wells should be right at the flow of water
                  if they are not then it will give a wrong temp because of the dead water in the pipe
                  Charlie

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                  • #54
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                    Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
                    ben the thermometer wells should be right at the flow of water
                    if they are not then it will give a wrong temp because of the dead water in the pipe
                    Could you post a pic of one done the right way because I think I'm getting confused. It's that thinking thing.
                    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                    • #55
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                      This is what they're referring too. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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                      • #56
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                        Originally posted by gear junkie View Post
                        Could you post a pic of one done the right way because I think I'm getting confused. It's that thinking thing.
                        here is one
                        http://images33.fotki.com/v1138/phot...rent019-vi.jpg
                        Charlie

                        My seek the peek fundraiser page
                        http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


                        http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

                        new work pictures 12/09
                        http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/

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                        • #57
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                          GOOD JOB BEN !!
                          ARRON 91 WHOEVER THAT PLUMBER IS SHOWS HOW STUPID HE IS,. !!!
                          ok guys let me give a primer on gov. plumbing 101, this is a gov job it is engneered with the BEST materials your TAX dollars, can pay for so the job. will last 50 yrs. even if the water heater go'es bad in just 6 yrs.
                          JERRYMAC
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                          CALIF. LIC. PLBG,HEAT,DRAINS,ELECTRIC,WATER HEATER, BOILER, POOL AND SPA HEATER
                          FIRE SPRINKLER CONTRACTOR,
                          SINCE JAN. 1989

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                          • #58
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                            Originally posted by JERRYMAC View Post
                            GOOD JOB BEN !!
                            ARRON 91 WHOEVER THAT PLUMBER IS SHOWS HOW STUPID HE IS,. !!!
                            I assume you're talking about ThisOldPlumber?? He was banned....
                            I'm on "The List" and I love it!!

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                            • #59
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                              Charlie, I love pics of your work, always learn alot from them. Won't the well placed in the flow of water obstruct the flow? Wouldn't this go against 605.5 (book is in truck so I'm going off memory) in ipc about fitting obstructing flow? Your pipe looked to be 3" so I doubt it would obstruct the flow that much. I know there's a happy median here and am just trying to find it. Would a well placed in a bypass work better?
                              Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                              • #60
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                                Originally posted by gear junkie View Post
                                Charlie, I love pics of your work, always learn alot from them. Won't the well placed in the flow of water obstruct the flow? Wouldn't this go against 605.5 (book is in truck so I'm going off memory) in ipc about fitting obstructing flow? Your pipe looked to be 3" so I doubt it would obstruct the flow that much. I know there's a happy median here and am just trying to find it. Would a well placed in a bypass work better?
                                ben when i put a thermometer in i take the well and hold it up to the pipe it is going in to see what type of adapter i need so the bottom of the well is just in the water flow 1/16 " . some times i need a small piece of pipe and a fip adapter and a lot of times i use a fitting x fip adapter .
                                i will take a picture of one tomorrow and post it
                                Charlie

                                My seek the peek fundraiser page
                                http://observatory.mountwashington.o...nal&fr_id=1040


                                http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/conditions.php

                                new work pictures 12/09
                                http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/

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