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  • #46
    Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

    call it propaganda if youd like its reality look at any species on this planet over population leads to a poor habitat that cant support that species which leads to an unhealthy species which leads to famine and death which leads to other species that rely on them to die also. other countries are already doing population control, do i think its going to happen here no, because of the people that think because were american that means were immune to poverity and disease
    Mike
    Clark County Plumbing And Drain
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    • #47
      Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

      Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
      Better yet, how about we do nothing at all (which is what we're best at) and let nature and time take care of it, because in the end, that's what will happen, like it or not.
      Thats the truth!
      If we do get overpopulated or pollute the planet or both...we will either die out or at least the population will shrink just lik eit does with any species.
      Nature always works things out one way or another.
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      • #48
        Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

        Originally posted by haycad View Post
        you can have all the kids you want but make sure you leave a picture of a salmon to pass down to your great grandkids so they know what one looks like.
        and big dog imagine all that land outside of el paso filled with track homes and apartment buildings. i was born and raised in the country there wasnt a house within a mile 3 years ago i helped plumb the 1500 house sub division where we used to play hide and seek. my graduating class had 97 kids last year there were over 400. i dont know about you i enjoy driving through the country and not seeing a house or a person for miles. i would like to keep it that way too. but if every person clones themselves over and over again where are they going to go?
        We rely on growth. If you don't like it close the borders and stop all immagration. That will slow the growth dramatically and we all will feel it (I belive "leagle" immagration is necessary). We also had the most snow ever recorded in historty this year no thanks to Al Gore! and I bet it will get warmer in a month or so then keep getting warmer before it get cooler again.
        This years fish forcast has the biggest salmon run in decads for Idaho. I am looking foward to taking one of my FOUR boys to catch some and enjoy the taste.

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        • #49
          Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

          Seven billion plus, on earth who are we kidding just ourselves.

          Tony

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          • #50
            Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

            Mass forced sterilization. Kill off all inferior specimans. Heil Hitler.

            What gives man the right to play God.?
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            • #51
              Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

              Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
              Mass forced sterilization. Kill off all inferior specimans. Heil Hitler.

              What gives man the right to play God.?

              It is that elitist attitude that they have, you know the "you are not intelligent enough to even understand" attitude. Where salmon and other wildlife takes precedent over human life.

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              • #52
                Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                Mass forced sterilization. Kill off all inferior specimans. Heil Hitler. Was this meant sarcastically?

                What gives man the right to play God.?
                Not sure if I get the drift of your thread and I don't want to misconstrue anything. Could you explain what you meant so there's no misunderstanding?
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                • #53
                  Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                  I'm just being sarcastic as usual. Every time I hear this "man is the evil scourge of the earth crap" it get's me upset. There's a fine and scary line between aknowledging a problem and acting on it. Throughout history there have been idiots, hell bent on "thinning the population" and it always leads to the tragic execution of thousands if not millions of innocent people. Are there too many people on earth.? I guess if you live in NY city you might think so. But if you live up here in Maine, it just does'nt seem to be a problem. For the good of man kind you can justify just about any insane act. Imagine a tax on children. A tax that out and out would punish all the poor and middle class people and perhaps deprive mankind of another Einstein. I don't know about the rest of you, but I see this kind of talk as dangerous to both my wallet and society. Imagine what it will do for the aboartion rate, and how about those that cannot pay the tax. Do you take the child away from them or put them in jail. Socialist, Communist Crap.
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                  • #54
                    Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                    do you really think people can continue to have a bunch of children and this world can handle it? its not as big as you think. and unless you want to eat processed food for the rest of your life we kinda depend on salmon and other species to survive. so live in denial and continue to drive your trucks that get 4 miles to the gallon but bi@ch about gas prices. and dont bother recycleing its just propaganda its al gores way of trying to take your hard earned money.
                    Mike
                    Clark County Plumbing And Drain
                    www.plumbinginclarkcounty.com

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                    • #55
                      Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                      Originally posted by haycad View Post
                      do you really think people can continue to have a bunch of children and this world can handle it? its not as big as you think. and unless you want to eat processed food for the rest of your life we kinda depend on salmon and other species to survive. so live in denial and continue to drive your trucks that get 4 miles to the gallon but bi@ch about gas prices. and dont bother recycleing its just propaganda its al gores way of trying to take your hard earned money.
                      There is a big difference between recycling and beliving Al Gore's propaganda and psuedo-science. It is clear recycling is a win, it doesn't cost you anything and it reduces the cost that towns have to pay to get rid of trash. Recycling just plain makes economic sense. Al Gore profiting from selling carbon guilt-assuaging credits doesn't make any economic sense.

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                      • #56
                        Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                        Originally posted by haycad View Post
                        do you really think people can continue to have a bunch of children and this world can handle it? its not as big as you think. and unless you want to eat processed food for the rest of your life we kinda depend on salmon and other species to survive. so live in denial and continue to drive your trucks that get 4 miles to the gallon but bi@ch about gas prices. and dont bother recycleing its just propaganda its al gores way of trying to take your hard earned money.
                        I believe the old argument of zero population growth has little to do with the US. Consider of the 5,000,000 people which are added to our population each year 4,500,000 are foreign born legal and illegal aliens.

                        The World statistics show the average number of children per family in the US is 2, El Salvador is 3.2, Guatemala is 4.9, Honduras is 4.3, Mexico is 2.8 and Nicaragua is 4.4 . So because there is already a zero population growth in the US what we really need to do is stop immigration rather than taxing our citizens to make up for immigration.

                        Mark
                        "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                        I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                        • #57
                          Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                          One of the developements we are doing in Utah will hopefully be green construction for water heating, light and HVAC.

                          Mark
                          "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                          I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                          • #58
                            Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                            Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                            I believe the old argument of zero population growth has little to do with the US. Consider of the 5,000,000 people which are added to our population each year 4,500,000 are foreign born legal and illegal aliens.

                            The World statistics show the average number of children per family in the US is 2, El Salvador is 3.2, Guatemala is 4.9, Honduras is 4.3, Mexico is 2.8 and Nicaragua is 4.4 . So because there is already a zero population growth in the US what we really need to do is stop immigration rather than taxing our citizens to make up for immigration.

                            Mark
                            i completely agree that immigration needs to be handled
                            Mike
                            Clark County Plumbing And Drain
                            www.plumbinginclarkcounty.com

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                            • #59
                              Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                              [quote=haycad;137053]do you really think people can continue to have a bunch of children and this world can handle it? its not as big as you think. quote]

                              Maybe, it's a little BIGGER than you think. And it's a BIG solar system.

                              I would much rather have a growth in population of a people who CARE about people and environment than to just sit back and be swallowed up by another culture which largely doesn't.

                              I would suggest that it's not over population that produces the squalor that people live in around the world. It's usually bad government (socialism, communism, fascism, sharia-ism and various other dictatorships-which, by the way, are the only ones which will DICTATE- how many children you may have) and screwy religions.

                              I would also suggest that it will be our capitalist, republic (as long as it remains so) society which can (and has) improve the lives and environment of people and countries the world over.

                              Yes, we could easily wipe out the salmon and any other species that we choose (including ourselves imho), but when we recognize a problem we take steps to fix it.

                              I would recommend baby steps.
                              "Man will do many things to get himself loved, he will do all things to get himself envied." Mark Twain

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                              • #60
                                Re: How can we "Green" up our industry?

                                i tried creating a couple social security numbers just last night!

                                it wasn't pretty either~!

                                she wouldn't eat my wonderful breakfast

                                if that tells ya anything
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