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  • The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

    In reguards to shoddy plumbing practice and inferior materials a group of Master Plumbers drew up this resolution which was the foundation of professional plumbing standards and practices. See how times have changed.

    Whereas, the manufacturing and wholesale firms in plumbing materials persist in selling to consumers, to our injury and detriment, placing us toward our customers in the light of extorsionists, causing endless trouble; and

    Whereas, The system of protecting us from this wrong, which draws in it's wake other wrongs, is innefective; it is absolutly necessary to perfect such a system, by united action, which will remove these evils from which we have suffered for years; therefore be it

    Resolved, That we withdraw our patronage from any firm manufacturing or dealing in plumbers material selling to others than master plumbers.

    Resolved, That the manufacturers of gas fixtures, selling to consumers shall not recieve the patronage of any master plumber.

    Resolved, That the master plumbers shall demand of the manufacturers and wholesale dealers in plumbing materials to sell goods to none but master plumbers.

    Resolved, That this association shall keep a record of all journeymen and plumbers who place in buildings, plumbing material bought by consumers of manufacturers or dealers.

    Resolved, That and manufacturing or wholesale dealers, dealing in wrought iron pipe, who sell to consumers shall not receive our patronage.

    Resolved, That a commitee be appointed by this association in every state and county, for the purpose of reporting to the proper officer at it's head in the state any violation of these resolutions.

    Resolved, That these measures are just and necessary to our welfare, and a rigid enforcement is demanded.

    Resolved, That this convention endorse the above, and urge upon the national association to perfect and adopt a uniform system of protection for the trade over their entire jurisdiction.

    So what ever happened to the "governing body"? Did the PHCC take the reins?
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    Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

    Bradford White is the only company I can think of who has made an effort in this direction. I'm sure there must be others. No wonder we all love B/W so much.
    sigpic3:00, I mean 5:00, and work is done. Time to crack a cold one.

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    • #3
      Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

      Gerber too "proffesionally made, proffesionally sold and proffesionally installed"

      Fluidmaster is trying this with there Pro line of repair parts

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      • #4
        Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

        I think it's great how they tried to "blackball" the journeymen and plumbers who installed parts sold to the consumer.

        We should try and be more loyal to those companies that try to keep a higher standard by selling only to the trade.

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        • #5
          Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

          Unfortunatly I think it won't hold up in court. F.W. Webb for years advertized wholesale or no sale and refused to sell to any non trade people. They have since stopped that practice and I don't know if it's because of the law or because they want the money. I do know that they don't give the homeowner anywhere near the same price that they give the trade.
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          • #6
            Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

            I recently started using the fluidmaster PRO fillvalve. I love it. The one I am using has a solid brass shank and is quieter than the regular series. Plus, it isn't sold at Blowe's.

            The Insinkerator PRO series garbage disposals are a disappointment though as they look exactly the same as the regular series sold at big box stores. HOs look at you funny when you explain that the PRO series is better quality.
            Last edited by Service Guy; 08-18-2008, 11:14 AM.
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            • #7
              Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

              How is the pricing for the PRO fill valve with the brass shank compared to the old 400A? About 5 dollars more maybe? I have thought about switching now that my town has a HD, but I haven't been able to find a supplier that sells the brass shank model.

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              • #8
                Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

                Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                Unfortunatly I think it won't hold up in court. F.W. Webb for years advertized wholesale or no sale and refused to sell to any non trade people. They have since stopped that practice and I don't know if it's because of the law or because they want the money. I do know that they don't give the homeowner anywhere near the same price that they give the trade.
                Fergusons is the same on pricing, I appreciate the fact that they continue to stand by the professional.

                I keep bugging them to open more stores, if they were closer, they'd be my main supplier.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

                  Originally posted by Nevada plumber View Post
                  How is the pricing for the PRO fill valve with the brass shank compared to the old 400A? About 5 dollars more maybe? I have thought about switching now that my town has a HD, but I haven't been able to find a supplier that sells the brass shank model.

                  You can get them from hodes co.

                  http://www.Hodesco.com

                  You need to set up an account to by from them verifying you are a plumber the model is Fluidmaster PRO45B

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Baltimore Resolution of 1884

                    I order mine from Plumbmaster. The brass-shank model is around $12 a piece, but its much better quality also.
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