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  • #16
    Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

    So, do ya think it was lightning?

    Copper deficient gopher wanted a snack?

    Never thought of trying to split / burst pipe under slab, hmmmm

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    • #17
      Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

      What kind of backfill did you find? I am guessing none, the problem was probably a stone that wore thoguht the pipe over YEARS of fluctuating pressure. Here you are required to insulate all your copper before you bury it to prevent that from happening.

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      • #18
        Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

        Originally posted by OkieBill View Post
        Are you sure a dresser will not work a temp fix as on copper Devine???

        You may want to rethink your logic and contemplate how a dresser makes it's seal...

        Normally, I'm not so crass as to drag someone else's name into one of my posts but in this instance it fit.

        There is where you are wrong. In this instance it did not fit, and I think I proved that through my post. You may be able to make a dresser coupling fit on copper if you tighten the heck out of the seal, but I would not even trust it to leave the water turned on overnight. Seems easier and safer to just get a couple of copper repair couplings and make yourself a nice little patch. Of course, I am not that skilled in dresser couplings as I have used maybe one or two a year when connecting onto existing damaged galvanized or lead pipe feeding a second floor bathroom that the customer did not want to replace.
        Last edited by Devine Plumbing; 09-29-2008, 11:27 PM.
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        • #19
          Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

          Originally posted by OkieBill View Post
          So, do ya think it was lightning?

          Copper deficient gopher wanted a snack?

          Never thought of trying to split / burst pipe under slab, hmmmm
          Don't know. Looks like decent wall thickness on the copper. It's also an almost perfect/big hole. Like it was drilled.

          Was it leaking for a long time? Could have been and they just noticed when the gusher hit.

          They make small pipe slitters for water lines if needed.

          J.C.

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          • #20
            Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

            looks like either the point of a nail or wire mesh was touching the pipe. I saw something similar to that. About 2 months after I put in a new service I received a call it was leaking. Apparently when the contractor backfilled there was a live low voltage wire fir the irrigation piping in the ditch. The end of the wire was pointing right at the pipe. The electricity put a hole in the pipe just like in your picture. Ive seen similar to that where the pipe penetrates the slab without sleeve. A small pointed rock resting against the pipe, the friction eventually bores a hole right through the pipe.

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            • #21
              Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

              Originally posted by winslow View Post
              looks like either the point of a nail or wire mesh was touching the pipe. I saw something similar to that. About 2 months after I put in a new service I received a call it was leaking. Apparently when the contractor backfilled there was a live low voltage wire fir the irrigation piping in the ditch. The end of the wire was pointing right at the pipe. The electricity put a hole in the pipe just like in your picture. Ive seen similar to that where the pipe penetrates the slab without sleeve. A small pointed rock resting against the pipe, the friction eventually bores a hole right through the pipe.
              Excellent

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              • #22
                Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

                Originally posted by Devine Plumbing View Post
                There is where you are wrong. In this instance it did not fit, and I think I proved that through my post. You may be able to make a dresser coupling fit on copper if you tighten the heck out of the seal, but I would not even trust it to leave the water turned on overnight. Seems easier and safer to just get a couple of copper repair couplings and make yourself a nice little patch. Of course, I am not that skilled in dresser couplings as I have used maybe one or two a year when connecting onto existing damaged galvanized or lead pipe feeding a second floor bathroom that the customer did not want to replace.

                Devine, think before you speak:

                http://www.wal-rich.com/Online_Catalog/Dresser03.pdf

                Dresser series 88, you want to read that and revise your post accordingly?

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                • #23
                  Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

                  If the dresser does not hold the night shame on me and thank god I have 2 mil in insurance to protect my customer.

                  Can you say the same Devine?

                  Seriously though the fill had some small rock in it so maybe that was it and if that is the case it is just a matter of time before another line gets a rub since none of the lines that I saw are sleeved.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

                    Originally posted by wrench spinner View Post
                    Devine, think before you speak:

                    http://www.wal-rich.com/Online_Catalog/Dresser03.pdf

                    Dresser series 88, you want to read that and revise your post accordingly?
                    And buy some code-books and get licensed and insured too. PLEASE.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

                      Originally posted by OkieBill View Post
                      If the dresser does not hold the night shame on me and thank god I have 2 mil in insurance to protect my customer.

                      Can you say the same Devine?

                      Seriously though the fill had some small rock in it so maybe that was it and if that is the case it is just a matter of time before another line gets a rub since none of the lines that I saw are sleeved.
                      Ahhhhhh, so there is a dresser available for copper. I don't think I'll be using one any time soon. I only have 500K in insurance, but thats enough for a drain cleaner. Speaking of which, I just bought an old ambulance last week. I don't need as big of a truck as I have just to carry around a few drain cleaners. I will post pictures as soon as I have it lettered. Drain MD. Wait until you see the big picture of Buggs Bunny with a carrot saying "Ehhh, Whats up, Doc?"
                      Last edited by Devine Plumbing; 09-29-2008, 11:51 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Lightning Strike? ( Pics)

                        Originally posted by Devine Plumbing View Post
                        Ahhhhhh, so there is a dresser available for copper. I don't think I'll be using one any time soon. I only have 500K in insurance, but thats enough for a drain cleaner. Speaking of which, I just bought an old ambulance last week. I don't need as big of a truck as I have just to carry around a few drain cleaners. I will post pictures as soon as I have it lettered. Drain MD. Wait until you see the big picture of Buggs Bunny with a carrot saying "Ehhh, Whats up, Doc?"
                        That truck does sound cool, I look forward to the pics. Take pics of your drain equipment too. Plumbing tool porn!
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                        • #27
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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by DUNBAR View Post
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                            • #29
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                              Always love the Pics. Sounds like a cool rig .

                              Like service guy said "Tool Porn"

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Devine Plumbing View Post
                                Ahhhhhh, so there is a dresser available for copper. I don't think I'll be using one any time soon. I only have 500K in insurance, but thats enough for a drain cleaner. Speaking of which, I just bought an old ambulance last week. I don't need as big of a truck as I have just to carry around a few drain cleaners. I will post pictures as soon as I have it lettered. Drain MD. Wait until you see the big picture of Buggs Bunny with a carrot saying "Ehhh, Whats up, Doc?"
                                Be carefull...You don't want to get into litigation with Warner Bros.
                                Had a guy who put his invention on a pair of reebok in a marketing photo.It took them about two weeks to find him and make him aware of his encroachment.

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