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  • Why would this leak?

    The house is about 9 years old.

    This is a pic of a second floor closet flange. It appears to leak below the coupling/flange connection. NOT at the wax seal. Take a good look above the coupling and the subfloor. Never got wet there but would gain a very slow drip after 3 or so flushes.

    This house was tested & approved. Just a curious spot.

    J.C.
    Last edited by BobsPlumbing; 01-18-2010, 09:43 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Why would this leak?

    Bad glue joint, just took years to fail.


    Somebody went thin on the glue.
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    • #3
      Re: Why would this leak?

      I have had some of these.Lite on the glue and I don't see primer.I would cut the flange and 90 out and redo them both.

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      • #4
        Re: Why would this leak?

        Yeah. Could be. I was looking closer and it almost looks like it wasn't glued. Like they did a stub up test or put a test ball below the glue line.

        I'll know when I dismantle it.

        J.C.

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        • #5
          Re: Why would this leak?

          Originally posted by Jay Mpls View Post
          I have had some of these.Lite on the glue and I don't see primer.
          Your right. The purple primer was not in enforcement at the time here. Maybe could tell better if cleaned it up and took a second picture.

          J.C.

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          • #6
            Re: Why would this leak?

            I vote someone forgot the glue, or didn't use enough.

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            • #7
              Re: Why would this leak?

              maybe the building shifted and cracked the glue joint.

              also looks like it hasn't been leaking for very long.

              at least the owner/resident caught it in time, cause the floor looks good.

              thanks for the pics jc.

              Vince

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              • #8
                Re: Why would this leak?

                Originally posted by DUNBAR View Post
                Bad glue joint, just took years to fail.


                Somebody went thin on the glue.
                Agreed, prolly some pissed off helper that just didn't give a fook

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                • #9
                  Re: Why would this leak?

                  And that's a pic directly from a MircoExplorer if it interests anyone.

                  J.C.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Why would this leak?

                    I would bet that the flange was not tested. Probably just stubbed up on rough and capped. Is it a tile floor? I think i could have cut a better hole with a chainsaw though. Surely no one would have installed without glue, but wouldn't surprise me a bit if there was on cleaner and they did not spin the flange when installing.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Why would this leak?

                      Originally posted by MPMGinAL View Post
                      I would bet that the flange was not tested. Probably just stubbed up on rough and capped. Is it a tile floor? I think i could have cut a better hole with a chainsaw though. Surely no one would have installed without glue, but wouldn't surprise me a bit if there was on cleaner and they did not spin the flange when installing.
                      Linoleum floor. I'm thinking as you are and they just stubbed through the floor and installed a slip flange with little or no glue. Something's just not right though. The throat outlet of toilets are small enough and either will extend or almost extend past the pipe connection in the flange.

                      Taking it apart next week.

                      J.C.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Why would this leak?

                        Yea i see what you are saying. Seems like even a shotty joint wouldn't leak water. Sewer gas maybe. Is it a 4x3 90? Seems as though its stopping up somehow and pressurizing?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Why would this leak?

                          No. It's a 3" 90 with a 2" heel inlet with a wet vent in the back. Shouldn't have unusual backpressure but I could be wrong.

                          J.C.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Why would this leak?

                            Rings are not tested/inspection.Only the pipe it is glued to.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Why would this leak?

                              Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
                              Rings are not tested/inspection.Only the pipe it is glued to.
                              Don't know if I understand your meaning Adam? Elaborate.

                              J.C.

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