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  • #16
    Re: The unemployed

    I think it is going to be different for each one of us and we need to base it on individual customers and not as a group. I often try to help others and at times it is to my detriment but it does not sour me from doing what I can.

    Some may have noticed I have changed my signature to include a quote from Ivy Baker Priest. Here is another one which seems appropriate:

    “Great opportunities to help others seldom come, but small ones come daily" - Ivy Baker Priest

    Mark
    "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

    I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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    • #17
      Re: The unemployed

      You kinda have to learn to read people. Sometimes you get it right, sometimes you don't.

      I've told people to pay me 10 dollars a month until the bill is paid, I've told people I wouldn't work without money up front.

      Not to long ago, I went to a long time customer's house after she called a bout a faucet. It seems her husband who had gotten bad with alzhiemers had taken the faucet apart and couldn't get it back together. I felt sorry for them, fixed it and went on my merry way.


      Unrelated, but when I was probably 13 yrs old, I saw my father give a young woman a handful of money after she explained to him her husband was out of work and they and their kids were trying to survive.

      About 10 minutes later, I couldn't stand it and had to ask him just HOW he knew she was telling the truth. My father said he didn't, and if she wasn't telling the truth, that was her problem, not his, and she would have to deal with that at some point.

      So that's the way I look at this. If I choose to help someone based on their BS story, yeah,I might get taken advantage of, but they have to answer for their behavior, not me.

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      • #18
        Re: The unemployed

        I like the tone of this thread.

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        • #19
          Re: The unemployed

          It wouldn't hurt anyone on this forum to adopt a family in need and be their "Guardian Angel" during these difficult times. Not the ones that ask for it, but the proud ones that don't. I have also worked for cookies as Plumber Rick has and have told other customers that were in a difficult bind not to pay me anything until they are absolutely back on their feet. Sometimes it took a long time. I have been known to save used water heaters that had years left on them as well as perfectly good used toilets to give to people who really needed a break. Think about how you can make a difference in someones life instead of just your wallet

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          • #20
            Re: The unemployed

            Originally posted by rookie plumber View Post
            It wouldn't hurt anyone on this forum to adopt a family in need and be their "Guardian Angel" during these difficult times. Not the ones that ask for it, but the proud ones that don't. I have also worked for cookies as Plumber Rick has and have told other customers that were in a difficult bind not to pay me anything until they are absolutely back on their feet. Sometimes it took a long time. I have been known to save used water heaters that had years left on them as well as perfectly good used toilets to give to people who really needed a break. Think about how you can make a difference in someones life instead of just your wallet
            rookie, very nice points and gestures.

            just as long as you stay away from my cookie customers, all will be ok.

            go find your own

            rick.
            phoebe it is

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            • #21
              Re: The unemployed

              No, this isn't SoCal, though. Most people here can change their own flapper or put a sharkbite on or has a friend that can do it.

              My prices haven't gone up since these problems started and they were reasonable then.
              (The Low Spark of Steel-Toed Boys)

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              • #22
                Re: The unemployed

                be not forgetful to entertain strangers for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. i'm a heathen for what it's worth. breid

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                • #23
                  Re: The unemployed

                  I have a family that I have "adopted". They rent a portable toilet from me for a price that no one else can get, not even my best customer. It just makes me feel good to help them out.

                  I had a lady that called me out about 4 times in a couple of weeks. Inlet to the tank was backed up each time. We uncovered an pumped the tank the first time as well as cleared the blockage. It was jammed full of tp each time I came up. The poor old gal was lonely I'm sure. She had the money and paid me each time (even though I told her not too, she insisted). Sad thing is her son lived on the property could have cleared the line as there was a lid over the inlet baffle on the tank. According to her, he hadn't been up to see her in a "few months".

                  I had planned on dropping by his house if she called me again, be she never did.

                  I do take these things on a case by case basis. You can usually tell who the scammer is, and if you get took once in a while, you can still feel good about yourself for trying to help someone out.

                  Life isn't always about profit.
                  www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com

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                  • #24
                    trent2

                    had a customer like that once. sat morning, spring, still need a furnace. 7 am, show up. we have a korean widow of american soldier. furnace is shot. she want's to have a price to replace. i ask if she can afford the price of furnace. she said yes. wanted to know, what about labor. her 20 something son and buddy were sitting right there drinking beer. it was a free standing furnace with no duck work. i turned , told junior that he had once told me that he worked for a furnace man in the east. they were both way bigger than me, who cares. i told him that blowes was 38 mile down the road and i would be back in the evening to inspect the job. i told him that it had better be done when i got there. i ask if he understood what i had just told him? they both said yes. i told them that thing would not go well for them if they screwed up..........got back after 6 pm house warm. little old lady happy. bob happy. who cares about junior. he was probably happy to still be able to drink beer. life is good. breid

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                    • #25
                      Re: The unemployed

                      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                      I think it is going to be different for each one of us and we need to base it on individual customers and not as a group. I often try to help others and at times it is to my detriment but it does not sour me from doing what I can.

                      Some may have noticed I have changed my signature to include a quote from Ivy Baker Priest. Here is another one which seems appropriate:

                      “Great opportunities to help others seldom come, but small ones come daily" - Ivy Baker Priest

                      Mark
                      Mark that is excellent, I am sort of a fan of Dave Ramsey, he often touches on when times are the toughest for you GIVE to others. Times are tough right now and I see prices declining like crazy around here. I too have helped others much too my own detriment. I have to use my gut on when the right time is to do that. If I get burnt so be it, there are some things that make me feel good. I remember when I was growing up in WI. My mother worked very hard and the house we lived in had an ancient heating system that ran on fuel oil. I remember the fuel oil delivery guy helping her out on more than one occasion and how much we appreciated it. He never asked for any pats on the back or thanks, I guess it is my job to pay it forward once in a while.

                      At the same time too my own detriment I refuse to put my trade out on a street corner and be part of the deterioration of the market. I hate the price shopper game people play right now.

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                      • #26
                        Re: The unemployed

                        I did a favor for a well known citizen of my community, and I'm sure she'll talk me up for what I did.


                        Copper DWV stack, was leaking. I get there and I swear it looked like razor thin cut about 1/2" from the bottom of the brass tee.

                        I pushed on that copper to see if it was collapsing around the crack and it was solid as a rock.

                        Told her I could wrap it with electrical tape and she'll get years out of it, which is true.

                        I told her that will give her time to decide if she wants the job done right or just band-aid it so she doesn't have to deal with the waste water coming down the stack onto the floor.

                        She's 91, was still very agile and her son lived with her who's 57, a chemist.


                        The repair was not something I've done before, but I've seen it done so many times and work.

                        Is it right? It would of been wrong if I charged, and I didn't. It was on my lunch break today and I did my good deed. Honesty works best with people as a rule.
                        Northern Kentucky Plumbers Twitter Feed | Plumbing Videos

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                        • #27
                          Re: The unemployed

                          Rot on 2 decks. Guy has 2 kids in college. Out of work. Knocked $10.00 per Hr. off, From $80.00 to $70.00. Didn't have to,He didn't ask.
                          I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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                          • #28
                            Re: The unemployed

                            Great thread! It's interesting to read every ones responses that's why I nominated it for thread of the week. Very good topic.

                            Having some grace in life to others that may or may not need it will go a long way. I am not just talking about for them I am talking about for you and for me. When I get down one of the ways I pick myself up is doing something for some one else, maybe it's my wife or neighbor or maybe it's some woman I have never met with a flat tire. Point is, it maybe in a way strange but I sometimes help people for my own selfish or selfless reasons, you decide.
                            Last edited by DanLawrence; 07-20-2009, 03:13 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: The unemployed

                              Originally posted by aero1 View Post
                              yes i have, but as stated no one wants to be conned,one elderly customer years back cleaned their sewer gave a price upfront and finished went to collect and it seems they were short the funds so husband ran to trade in some bottle deposits to come up with the difference and as i waited in the kitchen i noticed cans of dog food in the cupboard and realized they did not own a dog also there was very little of anything in the house,yes peoples problems are not your problem and we are all in business to make money, but sometimes a little pro bono work is good for the soul. and in this case i refused payment and walked away without a second thought, and felt alright.
                              How much is canned dog food compared to something like canned chili, or canned beans, or canned corn? I've never had a dog so I really dont know. If I didnt have enough money for food would dog food be a cheaper choice than the others?

                              Lenny

                              Pronounced A-Bear Drain Care

                              I know, it doesn't make sense.


                              http://www.hebertdraincare.com

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                              • #30
                                yes lenny

                                people buy tuna cat food because it cheaper than chicken of the sea. most pet food is safe to eat. my cats used to eat the tuna. it had a stronger odor and rougher texture than human tuna. if you didn't see evidence of pets, my guess is that they are eating it.a lot of these people are on social security. i make $576.00 a month. how for do you think that will go by itself? when you hear some gas bag running their chops about socialism. remember they not talking about their socialism, they are talking about your socialism. i have never met anyone that has turned down medicare part d(drug supplement), yet. i live in indiana, somebody here will probably. joe the plumber is right next door. speakin of joe, i like to tell people "you can tell i'm not a republican, i've got a license". ps, i'm not a democrat, either. breid

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