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  • Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

    Customer called explaining that their sump pump would not quit running, and it runs even when its below zero (last winter). But it seems to have gotten worse. So I see the lake on the lawn, smell the chlorine as soon as I go into the basement (city uses a lot!!), and the sump is running every minute. Water is pouring into the crock! Shut the water service off at the street, and the whistling stops outside the foundation walls. All I know is the copper IS NOT K, and it almost looks as if someone started cutting with a tubing cutter, and stopped...house built in 1989. The leaks were right at the foundation.
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  • #2
    Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

    No compaction (sand around piping)

    Probably tracked that dirt in with a loader near the foundation

    Time and weight became the ultimate enemy and caused the start of a shear off of that pipe.
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    • #3
      Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

      How did they get away with not installing K soft? Don't new homes there get inspected during the construction process and again before an occupancy permit is issued?
      Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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      • #4
        Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

        Looks like M.

        J.C.

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        • #5
          Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

          The pic of the pipe is how is was laying...on the side (the other side though). I dont think it was a shear. It looks oblong. I could feel a ridge in the pipe with my finger. It was either kinked, or one turn on the tubing cutter. Heck, I can only speculate though.

          I should get the brand of sump they have though. I can only imagine how hard and long that thing worked!

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          • #6
            Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

            wouldn't the customer notice his water bill going through the roof

            out here we rarely ever see type k.

            doesn't appear to be a tubing cutter scratch from my picture.

            rick.
            phoebe it is

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            • #7
              Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

              Pretty much L is all I've seen here also.

              J.C.

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              • #8
                Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                Only thing I smell is SPAM.

                J.C.

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                • #9
                  Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                  Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                  Only thing I smell is SPAM.

                  J.C.

                  Check this out:


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                  • #10
                    Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                    That explains it.

                    J.C.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                      OMG did someone really get down in that trench? How deep is it? Not nearly cut back enough on the sides to meet safety requirements for confined space entry.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                        The customer probably never noticed it on his water bill because the leak was probably before his water meter.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                          No one in the trench. Uncoil the copper and away you go!!!!!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                            Why was the ladder in the ditch?
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                            • #15
                              Re: Gee, this guys price was really low...I wonder why?

                              The ladder was to get out of the trench after the hook up and patch.

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