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  • BobsPlumbing
    started a topic IPC-Boring Sideways

    IPC-Boring Sideways

    Appendix F-Section 101.3.

    In short, no 2" pipe horizontally through any studs.

    Just informing for those this applies too so you may avoid some headaches.

    J.C.

  • toolaholic
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    Re: IPC-Boring Sideways

    New market for portholes, Mom won't be happy !

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Originally posted by toolaholic View Post
    I.P.C. 305769 Max window kitchen sink width 14 1/2" .
    Carpentry ABC-123. Double stud at casing, 3 shorties under header, inspectors will call it here.

    No habla espanol carpentry.

    J.C.

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  • toolaholic
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    Re: IPC-Boring Sideways

    Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
    Inspectors will also use it at your kitchen window where it may be headered off with full studs and short studs. More than 4 over to your vent, no drill.

    J.C.
    I.P.C. 305769 Max window kitchen sink width 14 1/2" .

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Re: IPC-Boring Sideways

    Originally posted by Flux View Post
    If Pa, ever adopts this version of the IPC, I'm just going to tell our carpenters to use a 2x6 wall for the laundry area.
    Inspectors will also use it at your kitchen window where it may be headered off with full studs and short studs. More than 4 over to your vent, no drill.

    J.C.

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  • Flux
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    Originally posted by toolaholic View Post
    As a carpenter, what do You want for walls under the UPC.
    Laundry and kitchen 2x6 for 2" waste ???
    If Pa, ever adopts this version of the IPC, I'm just going to tell our carpenters to use a 2x6 wall for the laundry area.

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  • toolaholic
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    As a carpenter, what do You want for walls under the UPC.
    Laundry and kitchen 2x6 for 2" waste ???

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  • MoJourneyman
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    there I go again, noobing it up in public.
    I'm here to tell you, coastal nunya has a LOT of traps in exterior walls, along with non frost free hose bibs in those 3.5 exterior walls.





    heading to bed. I enjoyed the back and forth.

    goodnight all.


    Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
    No P-Traps in an exterior 2x4 wall. Got you again. (J/K)

    J.C.
    Last edited by MoJourneyman; 07-27-2010, 10:34 PM.

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Originally posted by MoJourneyman View Post
    I did think it was funny that they ignored the cleanout requirement when they wrote that code. leaves a 2 inch access to a 3 inch line. but hey, washer lines never back up

    our inspectors there interpreted it as a 3" 45 with a 2x3 bushing in it under the floor, and a 2" 45 above the floor in the wall, if it was on an outside wall anyway.
    No P-Traps in an exterior 2x4 wall. Got you again. (J/K)

    J.C.

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  • MoJourneyman
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    I did think it was funny that they ignored the cleanout requirement when they wrote that code. leaves a 2 inch access to a 3 inch line. but hey, washer lines never back up

    our inspectors there interpreted it as a 3" 45 with a 2x3 bushing in it under the floor, and a 2" 45 above the floor in the wall, if it was on an outside wall anyway.

    Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
    Remember, horizontal. They will allow a 2" Sanitary Tee, then drop into a pipe increaser or bushing over a 3" 90.

    I do try to use a 3"x2" Sanitary Tee whenever I can.

    J.C.

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Originally posted by MoJourneyman View Post
    doesn't nunya require a 3" tee for the washer waste anyway? they were requiring us to install 3" at the first horizontal portion of the washer line back when I lived there. and as I recall, the '09 code wants 3" after the trap, seems like that would need a 2x6 wall regardless.

    Springfield MO still hasn't adopted the 2009 code so I hadn't quite kept up on that.
    Remember, horizontal. They will allow a 2" Sanitary Tee, then drop into a pipe increaser or bushing over a 3" 90.

    I do try to use a 3"x2" Sanitary Tee whenever I can.

    J.C.

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Originally posted by MoJourneyman View Post
    will the inspector let it ride if the framers fir out the wall? that sounds like the only real solution since the hole is already drilled.
    As you probably know, depends. Here, no. I have pretty stringent enforcement & they would say that the integrity of that section of framing is compromised. And firring (shooting on some ripped 2x4's) does not change that.

    They would make me take out everything, put in a new stud, and start over.

    Now keep in mind, I'm not talking common sense. I'm talking code.

    And if you have strict enforcement, you'll fail. Plus, I'm sure we all want to do our best to put it in according to the rules.

    J.C.

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  • MoJourneyman
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    Re: IPC-Boring Sideways

    doesn't nunya require a 3" tee for the washer waste anyway? they were requiring us to install 3" at the first horizontal portion of the washer line back when I lived there. and as I recall, the '09 code wants 3" after the trap, seems like that would need a 2x6 wall regardless.

    Springfield MO still hasn't adopted the 2009 code so I hadn't quite kept up on that.

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  • BobsPlumbing
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    Originally posted by MoJourneyman View Post
    so 5/8" from either edge, that'd be 3 and 13/16ths. so even when the inspectors let us double the 2x4 studs, it was still illegal. <.< good to know.
    Double studs can have 1.5" pipe. A little larger hole by calculation but none of us use that odd size. Maybe for alignment.

    And only 2 successive double studs. Can't drill the third one no matter what.

    J.C.

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  • Flux
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    Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
    It may not affect you at all. I don't know what book you fall under. As you can see though, for IPC interpretation, it seems to be correct.

    No 2" horizontally through a vertical 2x4 under any circumstances.

    I'll fail and have to do it over here. Thought it might help others from having to do things over too.

    J.C.
    It will effect us if this is in either the 2003 or 06 version. Hooking up laundry boxes just became damn near impossible to do now because of that.

    But wouldn't a hole for 1 1/2 pipe be considered illegal as well?

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