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  • #16
    Re: water soluble flux

    Originally posted by DELCASE View Post
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    • #17
      Re: water soluble flux

      Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
      Start using PEX and you'll throw that ProPress in the Pacific.

      J.C.
      not necesarily as with the right jaws, it will do pex too

      we did a mock up at the roundup with a combination of copper/ propress and viega pex. we used the propress to crimp them both.

      rick.
      phoebe it is

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      • #18
        Re: water soluble flux

        Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK View Post
        not necesarily as with the right jaws, it will do pex too

        we did a mock up at the roundup with a combination of copper/ propress and viega pex. we used the propress to crimp them both.

        rick.
        I have too. I do think Viega should look into making a "stick-type" press tool. I really like the design better than the gun.

        J.C.

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        • #19
          Re: water soluble flux

          I've tried samples of different water soluble flux in the past, and never had a problem soldering with any of them.

          What's with all the Nokorode guys here? lol

          I'm a Utility Flux man...Nokorode I'd put 2nd.

          The worst is..and I can't put my finger on the name at the moment...but they are a black container with red top? Omg..talk about green hands after using that all day..and boy does it smell horrible!!! lol

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          • #20
            Re: water soluble flux

            Originally posted by Flux View Post
            I've tried samples of different water soluble flux in the past, and never had a problem soldering with any of them.

            What's with all the Nokorode guys here? lol

            I'm a Utility Flux man...Nokorode I'd put 2nd.

            The worst is..and I can't put my finger on the name at the moment...but they are a black container with red top? Omg..talk about green hands after using that all day..and boy does it smell horrible!!! lol
            Can a brother get his LACO on?

            J.C.

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            • #21
              Re: water soluble flux

              Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
              Can a brother get his LACO on?

              J.C.
              That's it!!!!!!

              Man..they need to ban that stuff...it's horrible!!

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              • #22
                Re: water soluble flux

                Originally posted by Flux View Post
                That's it!!!!!!

                Man..they need to ban that stuff...it's horrible!!
                I know some guys love it. Like how it aggressively cleans. I think they're just stuck in their ways.

                Burns those little cuts, doesn't it?

                J.C.

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                • #23
                  Re: water soluble flux

                  Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                  I know some guys love it. Like how it aggressively cleans. I think they're just stuck in their ways.

                  Burns those little cuts, doesn't it?

                  J.C.
                  A long time ago the supply house was out of Utility and Nokorode was no where to be found, so I picked up a can of Laco. I used it one time and threw it out..just couldn't stand it. I swear I washed my hands for 3 days trying to get the green off of my hands.

                  Now I know someone here uses it...fess up fellas!!! hehe

                  Nah I know people are stuck in their ways..I know I am with certain products.

                  There is a pipe dope I can't stand either and I forget the name of that as well. It's in a white plastic cylinder container with a screw top lid. The pipe dope is grey and extremely messy!!! God help you if you get that on your hands..ugh!

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                  • #24
                    Re: water soluble flux

                    Originally posted by SewerRatz View Post
                    NoKorode makes a liquid flux that is just like the paste flux but less the paste. I have used it and it works great. http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=246
                    ron, i'm not sure if this liquid flux meets astm b 813. nowhere in their spec sheet does it state that it does.

                    yet their paste aqua flux does state it meets the astm b 813 code.

                    the liquid one contains zinc chloride. no nsf or upc stamp.

                    while the paste aqua flux contains ammonium chloride. plus it has the nsf and upc stamp on it.

                    http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=240 aqua flow

                    http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=246 liquid flux.

                    http://www.rectorseal.com/index.php?...product_id=235 flux spec sheet.


                    rick.
                    phoebe it is

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                    • #25
                      Re: water soluble flux

                      Originally posted by Flux View Post
                      A long time ago the supply house was out of Utility and Nokorode was no where to be found, so I picked up a can of Laco. I used it one time and threw it out..just couldn't stand it. I swear I washed my hands for 3 days trying to get the green off of my hands.

                      Now I know someone here uses it...fess up fellas!!! hehe

                      Nah I know people are stuck in their ways..I know I am with certain products.

                      There is a pipe dope I can't stand either and I forget the name of that as well. It's in a white plastic cylinder container with a screw top lid. The pipe dope is grey and extremely messy!!! God help you if you get that on your hands..ugh!
                      Sounds like Hercules Grrip or Pro Dope. Spreads easily....EVERYWHERE!

                      J.C.

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                      • #26
                        Re: water soluble flux

                        Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                        Sounds like Hercules Grrip or Pro Dope. Spreads easily....EVERYWHERE!

                        J.C.
                        I looked them both up and it's the Pro-dope.

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                        • #27
                          Re: water soluble flux

                          Originally posted by Flux View Post
                          I've tried samples of different water soluble flux in the past, and never had a problem soldering with any of them.

                          What's with all the Nokorode guys here? lol

                          I'm a Utility Flux man...Nokorode I'd put 2nd.

                          The worst is..and I can't put my finger on the name at the moment...but they are a black container with red top? Omg..talk about green hands after using that all day..and boy does it smell horrible!!! lol
                          Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                          Can a brother get his LACO on?

                          J.C.
                          LU 130 passes out LACO to all the apprentices. You have to use an ASTM 813 approved flux on the license exam. They cut apart the copper and check for residual flux after the pressure test.

                          LACO is made in Chicago and is probably the preferred water soluble flux in town. Aquaflux is OK too.

                          I generally use LACO, or GREEN DEATH as some guys call it, but I'm pretty tidy with it and never have a problem with mess.

                          I recently picked up a can of the Lenox brand Water Soluble flux (formerly made by Taramet). I use the Lenox sterling solder (also formerly Taramet), and found it to work pretty darn good with that solder.

                          It's all about controlling the heat. Different solders and fluxes have varying melting points. The Lenox stuff is designed to melt in the same range as the flux. You get it too hot and the flux burns right out.

                          The other major problem I see with standard fluxes like Nokorode is that sometimes you can get excess flux pushed into tub/shower valves and faucets.


                          That being said, I would say that 99% of new construction shops use regular flux because you can blast the fittings quickly and move on. Most Water Soluble users are service guys (in my experience around here).


                          I still keep a small can of the Oatey regular flux around for times when I can't get a positive shut/drain down.....that is until I can scrape up the bread for propress (and stop shoving the bread into the pipe!) Lenox actually makes a disolving "breadlike" material that I've used with good results.

                          -Chris

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                          • #28
                            Re: water soluble flux

                            all i use is Nokorode pre tining flux and love it
                            i do mostly heating pipes
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                            • #29
                              Re: water soluble flux

                              coppermate only for me gives that clean finish.only dope i use is true blue [rector seal] for all apps.

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                              • #30
                                Re: water soluble flux

                                coppermate does not meet the astm b 813 standard.

                                this is the product from the same manufactor that does meet the astm b 813 requirement. http://www.canfieldmetals.com/aquabrite_flux.htm


                                is california the only state enforcing the code

                                rick.
                                phoebe it is

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