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    This commercial building was flooded back in 2008 ( like 9 sq. miles flooded downtown that year).
    This owner bought the building 2 months before the flood.

    Hired general contractor to do repair work a year ago, he and partner were almost done when they split partnership, so they couldn't finish.

    she called city to find out what she needed for inspections to get final.

    they had pulled building permit, but no plumbing permit ( not sure on heating or electric permits, but I doubt it).
    Plumbing inspector walked building with her and said to call a licensed plumber, whoever did this was not a plumber.....and he was just looking at what was stubbed out as the units were drywalled, one already had all the finish set

    Water heater over bathroom, no drain line or T & P . (check out junction box too)

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    Flush valve a tad low, and 3/4 mip and exposed copper at connection

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    We are allowed 5' trap arm here, but this is over 5', plus 180 change in direction and gotta luv the trap

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    we are just getting started...........

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    Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

    Compression nut burried in drywall
    I pulled toilet for drywaller to access, old cast iron ring stuck to WC when I pulled
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    Next two are not hack, but are unbelievable, this building was under pressure when I got there, and has been, this 3/4 is only 15' from meter in basement and it only had a small bead of water on it, not even dripping
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    closer up....after shutting down I just pulled it apart by hand.
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    New water heater they put in, vent against PVC and close to tracpipe
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    • #3
      Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

      This was to kitchen sink, the 90 up was to get high enough for trap to clear toe kick. Count the 90's and I then look below....
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      as bad as this is, this is after I removed FRP and green board..this was readyf or finish
      1 1/2" to the left is other side of kit waste, there was a waste line there originally, but you can see by the clean pipe they "re worked" it.
      The other 1 1/2 stub out was added to the old piping...it was rough in for urinal, check out the urinal water supply
      and pressure tee on vent stack.
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      This is riser they inserted tee for urinal on.... it looks to be used for just a vent before, but now waste on santee on its back.
      and all that backing but they missed it all and had 10 deck screws in urinal hanger
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      Did I say 5' trap arms are allow, or 15', I just can't remember all them numbers
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      some fine pex crimping
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        Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

        More Pex crimp training photos
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        I re-attached their WC supply for your enjoyment
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        Now, that ring is a touch low...Hmmmm
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        This is what was installed, with 1 tapcon holding it down, and toilet was set
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        • #5
          Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

          Looks like they was going for gold
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          • #6
            Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

            Couple of things. Elec. box overfill + . Liquid tight 6 ft. Max length,
            and wrong place for it to begin with. I would like to see these Pricks
            In a public stock in the center of town
            I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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            • #7
              Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

              Maybe this was just their interpretation of the code?
              Ideal Plumbing

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              • #8
                Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                Starting over is the only way to go

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                • #9
                  Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                  Originally posted by DELCASE View Post
                  Starting over is the only way to go
                  With a wrecking ball and a whole new build.
                  Ron Hasil Lic #058-160417
                  A-Archer Sewer & Plumbing specializing in:
                  Tankless Water Heaters | Drain and Sewer Cleaning
                  Sump and Ejector Pumps | Backflow RPZ Testing

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                  • #10
                    Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                    No vacuum breaker on the water heater.
                    "Man will do many things to get himself loved, he will do all things to get himself envied." Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                      Originally posted by SlimTim View Post
                      No vacuum breaker on the water heater.
                      Vacuum breaker on a water heater? Por quoi?
                      Time flies like an arrow.

                      Fruit flies like a banana.

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                      • #12
                        Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                        Originally posted by geno gardner View Post
                        Vacuum breaker on a water heater? Por quoi?
                        The cold water enters this heater at the bottom of the tank. The vacuum breaker should be on the cold line 6" (I think) above the tank. N'est pas?
                        "Man will do many things to get himself loved, he will do all things to get himself envied." Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                          Originally posted by SlimTim View Post
                          The cold water enters this heater at the bottom of the tank. The vacuum breaker should be on the cold line 6" (I think) above the tank. N'est pas?
                          I wasn't thinking of a bottom feed, but now that you mention it, I can see why one might be installed. They aren't required by our state plumbing code however, and I've never seen one installed here.
                          Time flies like an arrow.

                          Fruit flies like a banana.

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                          • #14
                            Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                            See what I saw today? A pipe rollercoaster.
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                            Time flies like an arrow.

                            Fruit flies like a banana.

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                            • #15
                              Re: some hack work for your enjoyment

                              Originally posted by geno gardner View Post
                              I wasn't thinking of a bottom feed, but now that you mention it, I can see why one might be installed. They aren't required by our state plumbing code however, and I've never seen one installed here.
                              From the IPC:
                              504.2 Vacuum relief valve. Bottom fed water heaters and bottom
                              fed tanks connected towater heaters shall have a vacuum relief
                              valve installed. The vacuum relief valve shall comply with
                              ANSI Z21.22.
                              "Man will do many things to get himself loved, he will do all things to get himself envied." Mark Twain

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