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  • Tile over closet flange?

    Besides just being a really poor way to treat the issue of a low flange. Is there anything code wise that would prohibit installing tile over the flange (see bolts coming through tile)??

    BTW, this installation is about 20 years old and surprisingly has never leaked between the flooring and the flange!!


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    Re: Tile over closet flange?

    Thats nice, goes to show you why we have so many hacks in this trade, plumbing can work like crap for years and years.
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    • #3
      Re: Tile over closet flange?

      even the stupid can get lucky

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      • #4
        Re: Tile over closet flange?

        JeffH......I don't think there is anything in code about that...but as you can see from the first two replies.....it was stupid and shouldn't have been done....If I had seen that I probably would have refused to set the toilet or got a lien waiver signed and no warranty.....
        Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
        You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

        Derek

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        • #5
          Re: Tile over closet flange?

          Wth...... Who does stupid crap like that...

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          • #6
            Re: Tile over closet flange?

            Originally posted by dcman View Post
            JeffH......I don't think there is anything in code about that...but as you can see from the first two replies.....it was stupid and shouldn't have been done....If I had seen that I probably would have refused to set the toilet or got a lien waiver signed and no warranty.....

            Actually it is addressed under both the UPC and the IPC under floor mounted fixtures.

            Mark
            "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

            I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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            • #7
              Re: Tile over closet flange?

              Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
              Actually it is addressed under both the UPC and the IPC under floor mounted fixtures.
              I realize it's addressed, but I can't find anything (writen) that would NOT allow flooring/concrete to be put over the flange. I posted to double check that I'm not missing something.

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              • #8
                Re: Tile over closet flange?

                Originally posted by JeffH View Post
                I realize it's addressed, but I can't find anything (writen) that would NOT allow flooring/concrete to be put over the flange. I posted to double check that I'm not missing something.
                UPC

                316.3.1 Fixture connections between drainage pipes and
                water closets, floor outlet service sinks and urinals shall
                be made by means of approved brass, hard lead, ABS,
                PVC, or iron flanges caulked, soldered, solvent cemented;
                rubber compression gaskets; or screwed to the
                drainage pipe. The connection shall be bolted with an approved
                gasket, washer, or setting compound between the
                fixture and the connection. The bottom of the flange shall
                be set on an approved firm base.

                408.4.1 Closet rings ( closet flanges) for water closets or
                similar fixtures shall be of an approved type and shall be
                bronze, copper, hard lead, cast-iron, galvanized malleable
                iron, ABS, PVC, or other approved materials.
                Each such closet ring (closet flange) shall be approximately
                seven (7) inches (178 mm) in diameter and, when
                installed, shall, together with the soil pipe, present a one
                and one-half (1 Y2) inch (38 mm) wide flange or face to
                receive the fixture gasket or closet seal.

                IPC

                405.4 Floor and wall drainage connections. Connections
                between the drain and floor outlet plumbing fixtures shall be
                made with a floor flange. The flange shall be attached to the
                drain and anchored to the structure. Connections between the
                drain and wall-hung water closets shall be made with an
                approved extension nipple or hom adaptor. The water closet
                shall be bolted to the hanger with corrosion-resistant bolts or
                screws. Joints shall be sealed with an approved elastomeric
                gasket, flange-to-fixture connection complying with ASME
                AI12.4.3 or an approved setting compound

                Floor tile would not be considered an approved material to install between the fixture and the flange.

                Mark
                "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                • #9
                  Thanks!

                  I don't know why I didn't get it when I read it! Just brain dead I suppose.....

                  Thanks again!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Thanks!

                    Most believe us. But, there's always one, that will pee on a 440 hot conductor
                    I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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                    • #11
                      Re: Tile over closet flange?

                      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                      Actually it is addressed under both the UPC and the IPC under floor mounted fixtures.

                      Mark
                      Well I'll be dipped in crap and shot for stinking....I guess I never really paid attention to it before....It just goes to show you that common sense for some installers don't apply.....thanks for making me learn something today!!!!
                      Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part!!
                      You can fire me...but you can't tell me what to do!

                      Derek

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