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    I have a few customers that have these installed. Some in small offices are fine, but the ones that have been installed in high traffic areas such as pubs and restaurants have become a headache for me and the owners who are all regretting having these things installed. They have issues with keeping them clean as there is no water running to keep the basin cleaned out. They also find that due to the high use they are having to replace the cartridges way too frequently which is a huge cost every couple weeks. Work for me though, some are getting quotes now to change back.....
    The trend to using less water though is not going to stop. Toilets have been reduced to 4.6 lpf now and that is what we are supposed to put in new home construction now. I think maybe we should beat them to the punch and install waterless toilets before they are mandated....wait didnt our grandparents have waterless toilets?........ yup... outhouses....

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    Eh i love your avatar ..... I have an outhouse at my cabine Its thé canadian way eh,,,

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    • #3
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      Why would a high volume area want to install a product that says "approx. 7000 flushes per cartridge" and then complain? When they change back those same people will complain about the water bill again.

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        Those are gross. I bet the drain cleaners business picks up every time they reduce GPF on toilets too.

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          Wow, waterless urinal in a pub in Canada? That is stupid! The bars I visit would go through 7000 flushes in a Friday night. Ha.

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            code in mn says you have to have water sized and ready to hook up (incase waterless doesnt work).. Ive founf that pubs and bars typicaly dont like to spend money, so when the code demanded roof top ventilator goes down they dont fix it, instead they complain about the smells.

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              There are a lot of these BS fixtures over here too. God knows how they got passed for use. Possibly typical of politicians thinking with the wrong head. Thye are also pretty bloody expensive. best way is to have a timed flush go through but this impacts on the trashy cartridge type.
              A few years ago I got beat on a retrofit in two office blocks. Funny thing is the install was a real hack job, so too was the bloke who sold it to them. Mysteriously however his Company got bought out by a bigger one that obviously didnt know what they were actually buying. I warned the client against these in favour of auto-flush devices only to sit back later and say I told you so. Shouldban nearly all of these fixtures. Oh and the worst part, they stink worse than anything known to man and beast, just like Kenny said.

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              • #8
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                can one get the blue goo that is added to the cartridge w/o having to buy the $50 cartridge ? I have pubs with the smell problem too (big incentives to go green from the city).

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                  Waterless - BlueSeal® Gallon #1101

                  When I have seen them in high usage places like casinos and airports...they also get cleaned several times a day and odor was not a problem. Saw some in a Greyhound depot....obviously cleaned about once a week, and gross!!!!!!

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                  • #10
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                    The issue of strong odors from waterless urinals is actually easy to fix using enzymatic cleaning products. Environmental Biotech (Canada, US or UK) have a combo of enzymatic urinal screen and spray cleaner (B-UrineFree) that take care of any odor upon contact and has worked wonders at our workplace. Google them. You never have to replace oil cartridges.

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