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    Inherited a job with no pre planning. Pool house, detached, ALREADY built. 95% complete. Need hot water. Nothing pre plumbed for hot water.

    One lav, outdoor shower for pool and the washing of 3 big hairy dogs. No compromises, they want LOTS of hot water when needed. They thought a 6 gallon ariston 110v unit would work. No 220v available. I am running natural gas for pool so I can get gas where needed. I'm thinking a lower btu tankless outdoor installation.

    Any one have another suggestion?

    Thanks

    No space for traditional tank heater.
    Last edited by wookie; 01-22-2014, 01:54 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Hot Water Suggestion

    Sounds like a perfect scenario for a tankless.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    • #3
      Re: Hot Water Suggestion

      Originally posted by wookie View Post
      One lav, outdoor shower for pool and the washing of 3 big hairy dogs. No compromises, they want LOTS of hot water when needed. I'm thinking a lower btu tankless outdoor installation.

      Tankless, but install the maximum size you can. It will modulate and if they run over the max you can always say that's what they get for not planning. (it's not on you then).
      ~~

      ... it was plumbed by Ray Charles and his helper Stevie Wonder

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      • #4
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        tankless or just tell the dogs to jump in the pool as needed.


        rick.
        phoebe it is

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        • #5
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          Install that tankless on the backside of the poolhouse (exterior). Out of site, doesn't need a lot of room.

          David

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          • #6
            Re: Hot Water Suggestion

            Originally posted by Dhal22 View Post
            Install that tankless on the backside of the poolhouse (exterior). Out of site, doesn't need a lot of room.

            David
            Also you do not want that tankless burning that chlorine rich air coming off of the pool

            it will it eat up the burner and the heat exchanger !
            JERRYMAC
            E-MAILJERRYMAC777@GMAIL.COM
            CALIF. LIC. PLBG,HEAT,DRAINS,ELECTRIC,WATER HEATER, BOILER, POOL AND SPA HEATER
            FIRE SPRINKLER CONTRACTOR,
            SINCE JAN. 1989

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            • #7
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              150K gas unit ought to be big enough to run the shower, if gas is available. I wouldn't waste their money on a condensing unit since it will only be used intermittently. An electric tankless like the Eltron Steibel Tempra 20 will also work if you have the amps to run it.

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              • #8
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                unless he's next to 3 mile island, electric tankless suck up power like crazy. they make a 20 gallon 2000 watt 120 volt tank heater that would be plenty and a cheap install if they can find the room for it.


                I have 1 customer with a small 1 bathroom condo that has an electric tankless. uses 6- 70 amp breakers and it just barely gets by.


                those undercounter electric point of use tankless heaters are another joke. nothing like a mist of an aereator using 240 volts at 30 amps. I piss faster and it comes out hotter than those units.


                rick.
                phoebe it is

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                • #9
                  Re: Hot Water Suggestion

                  Thanks all!

                  It will be a Takagi TK-jr, a non condensing unit.

                  Pool not built yet, but huge backyard and tankless won't be affected by chlorine but good point to consider.

                  wookie

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hot Water Suggestion

                    why did you decide on that particular model?
                    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by wookie View Post
                      Thanks all!

                      It will be a Takagi TK-jr, a non condensing unit.

                      Pool not built yet, but huge backyard and tankless won't be affected by chlorine but good point to consider.

                      wookie

                      Let us know all the colorful words they call you when you put that in

                      I've had nothing but trouble with the 'jr' model.
                      ~~

                      ... it was plumbed by Ray Charles and his helper Stevie Wonder

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Plumber Punky View Post
                        Let us know all the colorful words they call you when you put that in

                        I've had nothing but trouble with the 'jr' model.
                        Been a couple of years since I've installed a Takagi. Have @ 24 Takagis installed, no issues. Hope it stays that way.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by JERRYMAC View Post
                          Also you do not want that tankless burning that chlorine rich air coming off of the pool

                          it will it eat up the burner and the heat exchanger !

                          Top marks Jerrymac for being observant to this.......!!!!!!

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