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  • #16
    I've heard of those propress systems. You've obviously got one Rick. Is it worth it for someone who just does service work?

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    • #17
      theron, not sure if you want to invest the 2500. or so plus the inventory of fittings. i do alot of commercial work for other plumbing companies. i own 2 of the #320 with 2 sets of xl jaws 2.5'' - 4''. also the #100 1/2''- 1''. the real trick is to find the fittings at a good price. 11% off of retail/ list is not good.
      if all you do is smaller residential work, then i would say to save your money now. you need large size pipe and larger complexes to justify the investment.
      i feel that the prices will go down as other companies introduce their propress type equiptment.

      rick.

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      • #18
        Sounds good. I looked up the price of those systems last night and my jaw dropped. I knew they were expensive but not that much. Are the jet swets a worthy investment? Do they actually work?

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        • #19
          Theron,

          A jet sweat kit is a good investment if you plan to be in the trade. They work and they hold up fairly well.

          If you don't have room for anything else a white bread ball works. Usually a wet vac will siphon enough water out of your system that you don't have to use anything. And you have your vac sitting there handy to clean up after yourself for a professional job that brings you repeat customers.

          Leave the bathtub faucet open and all other valves closed. Most of the bread ball will come out of the tub faucet and whatever is left will usually disipate in the Water Heater.
          Work hard, Play hard, Sleep easy.

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          • #20
            Well the jet swets will have to wait until next month. I just bought a 12' A-frame ladder today from the HD for $230. I had to get it for a job that the 4' just wasn't going to cut it. But I will definately get a set. Yeah the shop vac usually works pretty good. I almost always have it with me in the customers' house.

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            • #21
              bread has worked for me a number of times. Just wad up enough to put in the end of the pipe and stick it in. It will stop the water long enough to get it done.

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              • #22
                I've been doing residential and commercial "repairs" for several years and have not yet come across a joint I could'nt finally solder using first a wet-vac then if necessary a Jet-Swet. I have been drooling over one of Ridgid's freeze units but I can't justify the price of one, yet anyway.

                One thing to be careful of....if you are sweating a final coupling, etc, on a closed line, and you are applying as much torch as possible to get the solder to flow, be aware that bursting can occur as steam builds in the pipe at the joint and it can blow.

                If worse comes to worse, shut the supply off at the curb stop, you can fasion keys of your own if you have a welder or ask the water dept to close it for you for the day. That combined with the main valve in the building and a shop-vac/jet-swet is usually all you will ever need.

                Edit; By the way, wanted to add, your company should supply Jet-Swet's for you. Every company I ever worked for had, if requested, after all, they are making money for them as well as you. If they don't I sure hope you're making a kill salary.

                [ 10-30-2005, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: AZPlumber ]

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                • #23
                  Our company requires us to supply all our own tools. We don't get anything, but free accounting and paperwork, and sewer auger machines and parts. So I'm on my own for that. I've not had any trouble with a joint i couldn't get, even with a moist pipe situation. I was just curious what things people have tried that have worked and definately not worked (the more humorous the better).

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                  • #24
                    If they don't supply them at first they should replace them as they get old or bad at the least. Jet Swets don't last forever if you use them alot and they're expensive.

                    As far as humorous goes, I've resorted to bread before in a couple late-nite/middle of winter/stuck in the middle of nowhere situations where I had to return water supply, it works to a point but it will almost always clog up something, especially shower valves, faucets and aerators, even some backflow preventers. I once tried one of those meltable silicone or rubber-whatever plugs that you see in some hardware stores, my only advice is don't, they are awful, but that's my opinion.

                    If worse again comes to worse throw a union on it and be done with it. If it's behind a wall then you gotta hope a Jet-Swet and full port ball valve does the trick.

                    Edit...for another piece of humor, I'm surprised that chain you work for does'nt make you supply your own main line machine and van too. That way, all they'd have to do is sit back and let you make $ for them.

                    [ 10-31-2005, 05:24 AM: Message edited by: AZPlumber ]

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                    • #25
                      Oh I own the van too [img]smile.gif[/img] . They basically front the machines and rake in the cash. But i'm ALWAYS busy. I almost never have standby time.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Theron:
                        Oh I own the van too [img]smile.gif[/img] . They basically front the machines and rake in the cash. But i'm ALWAYS busy. I almost never have standby time.
                        Theron,

                        For your own good, you can do better. Never invest your own money in a company you don't own.

                        the dog
                        the dog

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                        • #27
                          I know i can do better, but when i needed a job this was the highest paying company around for the experience i had at the time. They've been very good to me and are extremely pleased with my work. I'm due for a raise tomorrow [img]smile.gif[/img] lets hope i get it. I have to admit the truck and tools are a big expense (we all like buying tools), but it's just setting the stage for the future. One day I'll have my master license, and with my own truck and tools, be able to accept a bountiful job offer from a big plumbing company or start my own business in a flash.

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                          • #28
                            has anyone had experience using the Rigid SF-2500 pipe freezer?

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                            • #29
                              OK, I am not a plumber by trade just a DIYer. What is this Jet Sweat you are talking about and the talk about hollow all thread. I tried a google search for Jet Sweat and only turned up this thread. LOL I have always used the bread method.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by papadan:
                                OK, I am not a plumber by trade just a DIYer. What is this Jet Sweat you are talking about and the talk about hollow all thread. I tried a google search for Jet Sweat and only turned up this thread. LOL I have always used the bread method.
                                It's spelled Jet-Swet

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                                Mark
                                "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                                I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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