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  • toolaholic
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    getting into pex

    My son and I are signing up for a WIRSBO training class.

    our next remodel includes a complete re-pipe from meter in, along with extensive bathroom relocates. Do most of you use clear for hot and cold?
    do use you use red and blue?. I feel i should give a warning about possible rodent problems and plastic tubing. one plumber advises their customers to leave containers of water out if using DECON or similar rat poison.

    i plan on buying the propex hand expander tool and using propex plastic fittings. this is a permitted job and will make sure pex is ok with the inspector 1st. will do manifolds and follow all WIRSBO guidelines.
    all comments welcome and appreciated. thank's as allways TOOL

  • wrench spinner
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    Re: getting into pex

    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
    I would still prefer cast iron to ABS
    And I prefer PVC to both!!!

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  • PLUMBER RICK
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    Originally posted by sunworksco View Post
    Why can't there be a standard like copper pipe and fittings have been for years ?
    I think the non-standard issues with pex tubing /fittings turns off more plumbers than anything else.
    same issue with csst too. the companies that make csst have proprietary tubing and fittings.

    of course there's a solution for the pex compatibility issue.

    it's called sharkbite

    rick.

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  • NHMaster3015
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    Originally posted by sunworksco View Post
    In the sixties,when I was pouring lead joints on cast iron,my plumbing workmates were very leary about using abs pipe,too.
    I would still prefer cast iron to ABS

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  • sunworksco
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    Why can't there be a standard like copper pipe and fittings have been for years ?
    I think the non-standard issues with pex tubing /fittings turns off more plumbers than anything else.

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  • Cuda
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    Originally posted by AFM View Post
    Rodents are not the problem with pex the problem is there are too many different products on the market and every one of them having thier own set on tools to install and repair them a plumber in the future will need a truck just to carry these tools instead of just a flaring tool and a set of dies.

    Tony
    I used to think that also about needing different tools but actually almost all the pex pipe can use the fittings and tools of your choice, yes it voids the warranty but I am speaking in the future and doing a service call. So what ever brand of fittings and tools (crimp style only) you can make a repair even on wirsbo! But you can't expand non wirsbo pipe.

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  • AFM
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    Rodents are not the problem with pex the problem is there are too many different products on the market and every one of them having thier own set on tools to install and repair them a plumber in the future will need a truck just to carry these tools instead of just a flaring tool and a set of dies.

    Tony

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  • sunworksco
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    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
    Even better. We could all stop using this crap until someone finds a way to solve the many problems with it.
    In the sixties,when I was pouring lead joints on cast iron,my plumbing workmates were very leary about using abs pipe,too.

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  • breid1903
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    why put out water for the rodents if you don't have any pets? i use rat bait that they take back to their nests and i put out auto anti-freeze to quench their thirst. am i a nice guy? breid.............

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  • NHMaster3015
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    Even better. We could all stop using this crap until someone finds a way to solve the many problems with it.

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  • sunworksco
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    You can pick up some compression fittings at Homeboy Depot and compress fit the copper pipe and fit a pex pipe fitting on the other end or you could leave your cat up there!LOL!!

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  • Mike Wilson
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    Thank you!

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  • Mr. Ooter
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    I would call a plumber. You really can't join copper very well without soldering or using expensive equipment. You could attempt to replace it with Flowguard CPVC yourself but that's still plastic... Maybe start a shelter for homeless cats

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  • Mike Wilson
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    I can confirm first hand that rats will cause massive destruction to a PEX system in the crawl space of an attic. To date I have repaired no less than 14 leaks (in the las two months) in the attic due to rats chewing on the PEX tubing. I have attempted to find every hole that they are getting into the attic and I have placed every type of rodent trap I can find at my local home improvement store, but yet still they are chewing up my plumbing like it is some tasty treat. Based on the fact that the last two months have been misrable in my home and I live in fear of when the next leak will occur, I am at a loss for what to do... Can I convert to copper in the attic or there anything I do to the pipes to prevent them from chewing them? If I attempted to convert to copper, will I need to solder or is there a way to install copper with only threaded pipe. I need help!!

    Thanks in advance to anyone with any useful ideas.

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  • Australian Plumber Josh
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    I always use what i call a No. 19(thats a Yorkshire cat. number) at hot and cold points.

    Leaves you with a male thread out of the wall, fixed by screws through its backplate. From there you can use whatever. No need to use the torch inside a cabinet. No need for extra slack.

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