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  • Ridgid R2401 laminate trim router

    I just purchased the R2401 trim router. I do have large full size routers but I have had
    challenges with them on small projects.

    I finally decided to try the smaller trim router direction after reading various reviews.
    I did look at other brands...Bosch, Porter Cable, and DeWalt

    I find the Ridgid R2401 model to be very user friendly.
    It comes with all of the usual optional stuff you always end up buying,
    so for $109.90 [including tax] and with the LSA offering you can't go wrong.

    After READING the manual I set it up and ran a few different operations with it.
    I really like the LED light but...wouldn't two LEDs be better?

    The weight, grip, and operation are excellent even for a left handed user.
    The router does not cause any radio interference and they have a ferrite bead on the power cord,
    a very nice idea!

    You can review the specifications on line etc. so I'll not parrot them here.
    The R2401 does seem to enough power to address most of my routing usage.

    I suspect my larger routers may not see much action since I added this to my tools.

    Cactus Man
    Last edited by cactusman; 08-18-2012, 03:48 PM.

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    Re: Ridgid R2401 laminate trim router

    Cactus,

    Thanks for the nice review.

    I have the earlier R2400 which came in a hard case and with slightly different features. At first it was a bit scary with that rather large side access hole with no cover... as a novice user, I was sure I'd loose a finger should my hand carelessly grip it wrong. But to date that hasn't happened.

    There's also plenty of power, though no LED's... that's a nice addition.

    The only negative I have on mine is the very basic method of adjusting the depth, with a crude gear/thumb wheel against and toothed track. The base is still stiff and tough to adjust, but I've managed.

    On the new R2401 the design is improved in many ways.

    Thanks again,

    CWS

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    • #3
      Re: Ridgid R2401 laminate trim router

      I just got this for Christmas and was wondering what the limits were. From reading your review it sounds like it will handle a lot small jobs before I need to look at getting g the full size routed. Over the last year I have switched to Ridgid on all of my cordless and electric tools. Everyone has preformed flawlessly, my next to get will be the mobile table saw.

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      • #4
        Re: Ridgid R2401 laminate trim router

        The deal of the day I just jumped on. $109.00 delivered to my door! Regular price on the router alone is $129.00. Heard lots of great reviews on the router, don't know anything about the sander though.

        Happy New Year!

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        • #5
          Re: Ridgid R2401 laminate trim router

          Gadget,

          The trim router is quite nice, as you have read. The only negative that I know of is that the current model base doesn't accomodate "guide bushings", which the original model did. But with a bearing guided router bit, a guide bushing isn't necessary. This is afterall a 'trim" router.

          I use mine for cleaning up edges, rounding corners, etc. and I'm sure it can be used for a lot of other needs.

          Regarding the quarter-sheet sander, I have the original model which I like. I had to have it serviced only once because of an internal part failure (it spit whatever it was out). But under the LLSA, that was painless. So don't forget to register your two tools for the "Limited Lifetime Service Agreement"... you'll need a copy of your sales receipt and the UPC cut from the product carton!

          The only complaints that I've read with the Qtr Sheet Sander is that the clamping springs may not hold the paper well. Not sure what model version that may apply too.

          Best wishes for the New Year,

          CWS

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          • #6
            I picked up a R2401 recently only to find the advertised
            "soft start" feature didn't exit. A call to Ridgid customer
            service didn't help much as one person told me they had no
            idea if the advertised soft start feature was accurate and
            another told me the 1 day old router was defective and I
            should send it back to Ridgid for repair.

            On the chance it was a fluke I bought another from a different
            HD and unfortunately that unit also didn't have any discernible
            soft start feature. Anyone else find this to be true with
            recent product? I do see various user accounts stating the
            soft start feature existed at one time but perhaps a clandestine
            engineering change has occurred (for reasons which elude me)
            and the advertising banter was never updated?

            Lack of a soft start is a substantial negative for my planned
            use. Even though it is a fairly lightweight machine, positioning
            the router in preparation for an intricate cut only to have it
            lurch when power is applied isn't going to pan out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mmcmac View Post
              I picked up a R2401 recently only to find the advertised
              "soft start" feature didn't exit. A call to Ridgid customer
              service didn't help much as one person told me they had no
              idea if the advertised soft start feature was accurate and
              another told me the 1 day old router was defective and I
              should send it back to Ridgid for repair.

              On the chance it was a fluke I bought another from a different
              HD and unfortunately that unit also didn't have any discernible
              soft start feature. Anyone else find this to be true with
              recent product? I do see various user accounts stating the
              soft start feature existed at one time but perhaps a clandestine
              engineering change has occurred (for reasons which elude me)
              and the advertising banter was never updated?

              Lack of a soft start is a substantial negative for my planned
              use. Even though it is a fairly lightweight machine, positioning
              the router in preparation for an intricate cut only to have it
              lurch when power is applied isn't going to pan out.

              Sorry about any confusion there may be with the tool. According to the specification this model does not have a soft start. It does have a variable speed setting so the start is not bad in the slowest setting. If you could please tell us where the soft start was advertised for this tool we will see about getting that corrected in the future. Please email the information to Greg at Producthelp@ridgidmail.com

              Thanks!
              Dan

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              • mmcmac
                mmcmac commented
                Editing a comment
                Your Ridgid website clearly states the unit has a soft start feature:

                https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/trim-router

                I've seen the existence of soft start mentioned by past users and in
                fact the user who wrote a review in Jan 2014 on your website above,
                states his then 3 year old R2401 has a soft start feature. So I'd
                really like to know if a soft-start feature ever existed during the
                product's life. If so I'll seek out a used unit.

                If you've actually used a router with bona fide soft start, you'd find the
                existence of variable speed hardly substitutes for a soft start feature.
                In the case of the R2401 the advertised speed range is 20K~30K RPM
                and the unit will lurch when powered on at the slowest speed essentially
                the same as it does at its highest speed. Even if the slowest speed was
                was 0 RPM you really don't want to tie up one hand fooling with the speed
                control, nor does this address the usage scenario where both hands are
                stabilizing the router and power is applied with a foot pedal.

                The lack of soft start is a deal breaker for me and unnecessairly so as
                the cost to add a soft start ramp given the existence of a variable
                speed circuit in the unit is the cost of one 5 cent capacitor. I'd consider
                modifying the circuit if it wasn't rendered inaccessible via being embedded
                in a potting compound.

                I suppose a considerably distant 2nd best solution is to replace the speed
                control circuit or bypass the internal control module and use an external
                speed control which does provide soft start. But either of these will more
                likely send your customers to seek out a more accommodating product
                from competitive manufacturers.
                Last edited by mmcmac; 11-11-2014, 03:11 PM.

            • #8
              This just gets more convoluted. Today I received a VM from Ridgid technical support
              telling me there was no engineering change in the R2401 which would have eliminated
              the soft start feature. So the units in my possession should have a functional soft start.
              Well three out of three new units from various local HDs don't. So something certainly
              is awry here.

              ..the cost to add a soft start ramp given the existence of a variable
              speed circuit in the unit is the cost of one 5 cent capacitor. I'd consider
              modifying the circuit if it wasn't rendered inaccessible via being embedded
              in a potting compound.
              I again disassembled a unit and upon re-examination of the electronic module discovered
              the potting encapsulation was a low density urethane compound. Though a bit tedious it
              was fairly straightforward to remove. The electronic module is designed around a legacy
              Telefunken U2010B motor speed controller. This device inherently supports soft-start
              and the Ridgid design was apparently trying to enable the controller soft start cycle.
              However the design of the variable speed ramp and user speed voltage divider appears
              to be way off such that the soft start cycle was effectively disabled. After some
              experimentation I found the cause to be the low extreme of the U2010B speed range
              itself doesn't start at (essentially) 0RPM. Changing the U2010B ramp voltage capacitor
              (C1) from 3.3nF to 4.7nF extends the ramp timing correctly for a 60Hz line frequency
              such that the soft start cycle initiates at 0RPM, enabling a perfect soft start. As this
              change will interact with the factory set variable speed control range, a 24K ohm resistor
              is also needed across the black/white leads of the speed control potentiometer to restore
              the 20~30KRPM speed range. Actually I set it a bit lower at 18~28KRPM out of personal
              preference.

              I don't know how or why these R2401 electronic modules are built as such. Perhaps
              there is an issue with the subcontractor from which Ridgid/TTI sources these components,
              but that's just speculation on my part. In any case I'd urge Ridgid to investigate and fix this
              gaffe. The difference between the router as purchased compared with a correctly
              functioning soft start is nothing short of dramatic. I'd be willing to supply further technical
              details on my findings and circuit corrections if anyone (including Ridgid) is interested.


              Last edited by mmcmac; 11-13-2014, 09:00 AM. Reason: Edited for clarity.

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              • #9
                Mmcmac, impressive! I would maybe start a new thread regarding this. I'll have to check out my R2401 from 2 years ago and the new one I purchased a few months ago and see if either soft start. My R2400 definitely had soft start. Unfortunately I burned up the armature on it. (My own fault)
                Last edited by Alphacowboy; 11-13-2014, 09:56 AM.

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                • #10
                  While I still had the unit disassembled, I decided to capture a schematic.
                  The changes for soft start are noted in blue.

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                  Last edited by mmcmac; 11-14-2014, 09:01 AM. Reason: Corrected MIN/MAX legends, misc edits for clarity, bumped version.

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                  • #11
                    Mmcmac, that's awesome! I should go back to school so I can fully understand what you took the time to draw out... lol

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                    • #12
                      For questions related to this topic, please give a call to Greg from Customer Service at 866-539-1710. Thanks!
                      Dan

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by DanMuresan View Post
                        For questions related to this topic, please give a call to Greg from Customer Service at 866-539-1710. Thanks!

                        Wouldn't it be more generally helpful for your customers if Greg or another Ridgid representative provided information directly in this forum? I'd expect a goal of this Ridgid sponsored forum would indeed be to broadly dissemenate such information to its customers. Thanks.

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                        • #14
                          Today I received an early model R2401 with the 12' power cord and neon bulb power indicator in the plug. The last time I had one of those in my hands IIRC was around 2007. That unit also has the non-fucntional soft start controller. I'd ordered it before I uncovered the above fix so I'll leave the mystery of when a functional soft start feature went missing for Ridgid to unravel. Incidentally I had both units in the shop today and decided to compare a stock unit side by side with a modified version. You can find the comparison below.

                          Last edited by mmcmac; 11-15-2014, 10:15 PM.

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