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  • Which Ridgid Table Saw?

    Howdy. Brand new to this forum, and fairly new at woodworking.

    I currently have a cheap Craftsman table saw, and realize that it is time to upgrade. It's unstable (too lightweight), the fence is not accurate, the miter slots are non-standard, and I can't even use the blade guard because it won't align with the blade correctly.

    As you're likely aware, Home Depot has the instant savings tool sale until April 11th. I decided to go ahead and splurge on tools with my hard-earned tax refund, and completed phase one last night with a Dewalt 3-pc router kit, Porter-Cable compressor/nail gun kit, and a cheap belt sander to get it above the $600 mark to get the $125 rebate. (Last night was like Christmas, playing with my new toys. )

    Phase two is to get a table saw. I've seen favorable reviews everywhere about the two Ridgid table saws, and I'm debating between the $550 TS3560 "beast" vs. the $450 TS2400 portable. Here's how I currently see the pros/cons of each:

    Pros for both (in terms of comparing to my current saw): Standard miter slot, much better fence, stable.

    TS3560 Pros: solid as a rock (287 lbs) , 36" rip capacity, mobile base (a must in my relatively-small workshop).
    TS3560 Cons: more expensive, back-breaking work to transport/carry down stairs piece-by-piece and assemble, and once it's in basement, it's not moving outside the shop until we buy a new house.

    TS2400 Pros: More lightweight (only 120 lbs), cheaper, less assembly (I'm assuming), stowable in corner of shop if needed, portable if needed elsewhere in house. (Of course, I could relagate my Craftsman as the "portable" saw, and move it around as needed.)
    TS2400 Cons: Smaller rip capacity, table surface smaller. Less weight might mean less stability for large boards.

    So, it sort of comes down to the logistical superiority of the portable saw to the perceived higher accuracy of the "tank". I probably won't be doing any ultra-precision work with my table saw, nor building cabinets for a living, but I may get a miter sled or perhaps a tenoning jig.

    I think I'll be happy with either one, but can anyone sway me one way or the other? Do you think the accuracy of the cast-iron saw is significantly better than a portable (albeit relatively heavy) one? Are there any standard accessories that I won't be able to use with the portable?

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    Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

    Don't overlook the longterm reliability advantages of the 3650 and that class of saw. A cast iron saw with induction motor should be a lifetime tool with moderate maintenance... the wearable parts are fairly easy to replace, and not all that likely to ever need replacing. You'd be far less likely to get multiple decades out of a portable if used regularly...the materials used in the construction are considerably different.

    There's also a considerable noise difference between the two.

    The "happy with either one" element is relative to what you're used to. You may find yourself getting deeper into woodworking than you think, and wishing you'd gone with the bigger saw after a short while. Many of us outgrow the smaller saws in short order. You're less likely to outgrow a full size saw. It's not too hard to get a 300# saw into a basement in pieces....getting it out is harder! (you just have to take the peices apart again...)

    No real contest in terms of usage, noise, capacity, and longterm reliability... the portables have no significant advantages over a full size cast iron saw other than portability. However, they are capable of enough precision to do fine woodworking, though possibly not quite as easily. Ultimately, you'll have to determine how important the portability of the 2400 is to you....portability and lower price are the only two advantages over the 3650. How much will the price difference mean to you in 6 months?

    Just my 2 cents...
    Last edited by hewood; 03-30-2007, 07:25 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

      Reread the cons you posted about the 3650. Not one of them really has anything to do with how the saw performs or it capabilities. You just listed some minor nuisances that will be involved in getting the saw up and running. I'm not saying that you wouldn't be happy with a 2400 but my bet is that in the long run you'll be happier with a 3650.
      Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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      • #4
        Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

        When I bought mine I was torn between the mobility and the stability issue. You have said you can make the craftsman your portable saw. In my case, I decided any portable work would better be served with my miter saw and a circular saw, as it would not be cabinet grade work (in my case). I went with the 3650 and bless the day I did. Since buying it I have built a couple handicapped ramps and a 12 x 16' deck extension at other places and do not regret my choice. I did not need a table saw to do that work.
        The 3650 is MUCH quieter, more stable, has a larger table, especially in front of the blade for working dados on furniture pieces, and I can push a full sheet of plywood across it without it moving.
        As for putting it into and out of the basement:
        It won't be backbreaking if you unpack the box and carry the main saw, and the two wings down separately. Other than that you can carry the rest down in one box. For removal from the basement, slide two 2x4s under the main frame and have a buddy help you carry it (if you don't want to disassemble anything). It won't be any worse than moving a wash machine although you may have to remove the fence rails due to their length. If you tilt it up on the edge of the left wing, you can move it out with a furniture dolly (with the help of a friend).
        My previous saw was a direct drive craftsman. IMHO, the 2400 would have improved the fence, mobility, and power. The 3650 was like going from an old volkswagon beetle to a Buick LeSabre..
        IMHO, if you aren't doing on-site cabinet work, go with the 3650.

        Go
        Practicing at practical wood working

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        • #5
          Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

          Hmm...I had not really considered the longevity and noise factors. My wife, who sits directly above my shop when watching TV, will especially like the latter. I just ran my air compressor for 15 minutes to break it in , and she said it was the loudest tool I had.

          You might have swayed me considerably in the "heavy iron" direction. Thanks much for the info.

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          • #6
            Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

            Just to drive the point home. I think eveyone has explained the portability, noise and assembly issues related to the TS3650. One thing I like about the 3650 is the extra rail space to the right of the saw. It has just the right amount of room for a home made or purchased router or jigsaw extension leaf. I'm in the process of making my own router extension leaf at the moment. I will post pics to show it off as soon as I'm done. However, in the mean time have a looksy at the following link which I've borrowed the leaf extension idea from. Also, keep checking the forum for other ideas. There are many other creative extension leaves out there.

            Thanks rprice54 for the idea and tips.

            http://home.carolina.rr.com/rcprice/

            Now my turn, I'm looking at taking advantage of the sale myself, should I buy the Ridgid planer or not. I don't see myself using it often for rough stock, but I do find myself wishing I had a planer from time to time. I've looked at cheaper versions, but don't see them to be that much cheaper for the quality. I'm always of the opinion that if it's going to cost $100 or $200 more for the better one then just buy it. So, in the end, I guess I'm just looking for you all to talk me into buying it. Pep talk anyone?
            No, the half of the missing finger was not power tool related.

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            • #7
              Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

              I can't say enough good things about the Ridgid planer. You'll find plenty of excuses to use it if you have it in the shop. It's a great machine and it does just exactly what you need a small planer to do.

              Steve


              Originally posted by 9.5 fingers to go View Post
              Just to drive the point home. I think eveyone has explained the portability, noise and assembly issues related to the TS3650. One thing I like about the 3650 is the extra rail space to the right of the saw. It has just the right amount of room for a home made or purchased router or jigsaw extension leaf. I'm in the process of making my own router extension leaf at the moment. I will post pics to show it off as soon as I'm done. However, in the mean time have a looksy at the following link which I've borrowed the leaf extension idea from. Also, keep checking the forum for other ideas. There are many other creative extension leaves out there.

              Thanks rprice54 for the idea and tips.

              http://home.carolina.rr.com/rcprice/

              Now my turn, I'm looking at taking advantage of the sale myself, should I buy the Ridgid planer or not. I don't see myself using it often for rough stock, but I do find myself wishing I had a planer from time to time. I've looked at cheaper versions, but don't see them to be that much cheaper for the quality. I'm always of the opinion that if it's going to cost $100 or $200 more for the better one then just buy it. So, in the end, I guess I'm just looking for you all to talk me into buying it. Pep talk anyone?

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              • #8
                Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                What my opinion is worth... I think that if you bought the smaller saw you would soon be looking at building a tablesaw station which would give you more room etc to cut on which would negate buying a smaller saw to start with. You are already in the basement Might as well go for the big boy as I know I wouldnt be hauling a 120lb saw up and down the stairs, they make circular saws for that. I see a TS as a permanant fixture in my shop even with the mobile base. Sure it moves around a few feet from time to time but I know what spot it likes to sit at and it likes its home.

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                • #9
                  Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                  Originally posted by 9.5 fingers to go View Post
                  ...Now my turn, I'm looking at taking advantage of the sale myself, should I buy the Ridgid planer or not. I don't see myself using it often for rough stock, but I do find myself wishing I had a planer from time to time. I've looked at cheaper versions, but don't see them to be that much cheaper for the quality. I'm always of the opinion that if it's going to cost $100 or $200 more for the better one then just buy it. So, in the end, I guess I'm just looking for you all to talk me into buying it. Pep talk anyone?
                  To me, the planer is one of the 3 most important tools in the shop....you may find yourself using it more than you think once you get one. A planer opens up new sources of wood for you....rough, salvaged, you name it. The ability to change thickness and flatten (with a sled) is a valuable capability IMO.

                  There are cheaper planers, but none significantly cheaper that have a cutterhead lock, which is one of the more critical features IMO. Without one, you'll be cutting 3-4" off the end of each board. Better to invest $300-$350 wisely now than frustrate yourself by spending $200 for a tool that leaves snipe marks and wastes wood, which could end up costing more in the long run...pay me now, or pay me later! Watch the sale prices, or buy a decent used one.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                    About 4 months ago I bought the TS2400. After using it for a couple of months, I took it back for the TS3650. Nothing inherently wrong with the 2400, except that I quickly found it was too small for some things I wanted / needed to do.

                    I also have limited space & quickly figured out that instead of a stand alone router table hogging up valuable room, it would be far more space effective to have a router table extension added onto my table saw. Check the post above by 9.5 fingers to go & personally I'm going with the cast iron router wing by Bench Dog. See this thread..... http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/sho...ter+table+wing

                    Can't do that with the 2400, but you can with the 3650.

                    Save yourself the aggravation I went through & get the 3650 right from the get go.

                    Oh yeah! My woodworking is done in our basement, so when I traded up to the 3650, the better half was more than happy with the noise differential.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                      Okay, I'm 100% convinced on the 3650. Plus, I have the "boss's" concurrence on this procurement. (In turn, she gets approval for a few more kitchen gadgets and gizmos.)

                      I had not thought of the potential for a router table extension. Brilliant!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                        Steve

                        Please wait before you run out and buy one unless they are on special. Do you really need one you can get up and down stairs? If yes, you might take a look at Hy-Brid saws which are like the TS3650 (Contractor saw) but mounted on a base more like a Cabinet style saw with the motor under the table. They are less trouble to move, but they do get into some good money. Maybe what you really want is to think about one of each of the 2 Ridgid table saws or similar. One for shop use and one to take with you.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                          The first thing "She who must be obeyed" said after I cut my first piece on the 3650 was "WOW! that's alot quieter than than your other one". She was in the living room directly above my shop.

                          The "other" one was a Craftsman Bench saw on a stand.

                          Thanks Sweety! She bought the 3650 for my B'day. Got tired of hearing me complain about the "other" saw!!!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                            I ended up purchasing the 2400 because the ability to fold up was an absolute requirement for my crammed garage. The 2400 was also tough to pass up at $280 at a local woodworking show. It's a factory reconditioned model and it was discounted for the show, so I "had" to buy it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Which Ridgid Table Saw?

                              Bigger is better!!! I brought my 3650 home in a ford escort hatchback.
                              took 20 minutes to unload and 4 hours to assemble.

                              bob 405

                              Good luck

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