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  • need some molding help

    how would you fix the space on the sides of the doors
    the contractor does not see what the problem is ,he is not getting paid the full amount because he made the opening to big







    Charlie

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  • #2
    Re: need some molding help

    I think I'd simply frame the doorway. Of course I don't know what you have in the way or baseboard molding or whether any of the doorways or windows in this room are conventionaly framed; but if so, I'd match what was done in those areas.

    (I do like the nice clean look of unframed passage ways, but they are usually more likely to show wear and tear. All the the homes that I have owned were older with lots of "woodwork".)

    So unless it goes against your architecture, I'd frame the door. At least the inside area. I have bi-fold doors here, that I use to close off the computer work area (my computer and ham radio equipment are built into a closet with bi-fold doors to close it off when not used.) This particular room is my "den". So the informality of that didn't require anything fancy, so I faced the doorway and used a simple "ranch molding" for the surround.

    In our future home, there is extensive oak trim. The main entry closet uses sliding doors, and there we used a matching oak trim.

    I hope this helps,

    CWS

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    • #3
      Re: need some molding help

      There's lots of ways to fix it, first off I'd have him adjust the doors in the opening, widen the margin in between both sets of doors and see how it looks.

      They could margin up the opening, install 1/2" clear pine and trim it out with the same trim through the rest of the house on that outer opening.


      Rip a runner in front of that track so they have the ability to nail the top mold, cut the mitred top piece that rails to the sides.




      Remember that you don't want a super tight situation there, otherwise those doors will pinch when they open or rub, given the turning radius on bifolds.
      Last edited by DUNBAR PLUMBING; 11-23-2008, 01:44 PM.
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      • #4
        Re: need some molding help

        charlie, have them match the finish and also cover up the track too.

        as cwsmith mentioned, install some matched wood to the inside of the jambs. center up the doors and you're set

        rick.
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        • #5
          Re: need some molding help

          could add a small strip on each edge of the out side doors, and finish it the same as the doors.
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          • #6
            Re: need some molding help

            thanks for the help and ideas
            i was looking to make it the same space on each side and keep the middle close together and put the same type of trim on the sides and the top .

            the builder said there is nothing wrong with it
            Charlie

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            • #7
              Re: need some molding help

              Hawk, do you have casing (trim) on other doors in the room? If so, the fix is easy. You move the doors closer to the front (about a half inch back) and the case the opening leaving the casing over lap the opening to narrow the gap. You cant eliminate it entirely or the doors won't open fully. On the top, put in a filler (oak to match) and run the head casing across it.

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              • #8
                Re: need some molding help

                Originally posted by Pipestone Kid View Post
                Hawk, do you have casing (trim) on other doors in the room? If so, the fix is easy. You move the doors closer to the front (about a half inch back) and the case the opening leaving the casing over lap the opening to narrow the gap. You cant eliminate it entirely or the doors won't open fully. On the top, put in a filler (oak to match) and run the head casing across it.
                Edit: On closer look, the doors don't look to be oak. I can post a pic if you like.

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                • #9
                  Re: need some molding help

                  thanks i like that idea but i have to run it past my sister it is her house
                  Charlie

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                  • #10
                    Re: need some molding help

                    I would move the right door over closer to the left to close up the gap.

                    If you look at the pivot hinge at the top and bottom, you will see that bifold doors have the pivot hole inboard of the center of the vertical door piece. This way, you can install side trim that actually overlaps from the wall to the door by about 1/4" and not interfere with the opening. The door edge will actually pivot back and then next to the trim. You can measure the final distance and then add 1/4" to it, rip it down and stain and install.

                    For the top header trim, just make it 1/8" less than the distance from the top of the opening to the top of the door. Piece-o-cake!! LOL

                    Mark
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                    • #11
                      Re: need some molding help

                      This depends on what skill levels that you have. The spacing that you see is not uncommon. If you look closely at the operation of the bifold door when you have it about 1/3 to 1/2 open you will see that it needs about 1/2" to 5/8" clearance to operate without binding on the wall (on some doors it is more, depends on the positioning of the hole for the pivot on the bottom). If you have taping skills you could laminate a layer of drywall on the jamb and tape, sand and paint. You will still end up with a space and you have to be carefull that you do not build it out to much as it will bind see above). If you have wood working skills consider a half jamb and casing. Leave the door as is and add a half jamb that sits almost against the door and is flush with the drywall outside corner. Then put casing around it and you are done. This will give it the same look as the swing door.
                      Half jamb is just the way it sounds, you take a full jamb and rip the 2 side and top in 1/2. 1 jamb does 2 bifolds.


                      If it were me I would adjust the doors so that the center and side spaces are equal and you are done. Oh I would also install a piece of door stop or trim of your choise in front of the bifold track if you are not going with the half jamb.

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