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  • Dust Collection Guro Opinions

    For all you experts on dust collection, I'm sitting here planning the addition to the shop, and contimplating price, size, effectiveness of dust collection. Looking at 3 units, one from Oneida, Penn State and Grizzly. Though, as you all know, I hate green, I keep coming back to the Grizzly. Take a look, and offer your opinions.

    Do not consider the microns of the bags. Unless some drastic change takes place, I plan to vent outside.

    3HP Cyclone
    John E. Adams<br /><a href=\"http://www.woodys-workshop.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.woodys-workshop.com</a>

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    I recommend you go here & do some reading it may help with your decision.

    http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworki...one/Index.html

    And here http://www.dusteliminator.com/

    [ 05-21-2003, 12:27 AM: Message edited by: Vibart2 ]
    Sucking.....Whoosh....Yowl....Thrump

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    • #3
      Woody,

      I ended up getting the Grizzly G1029. I like it. It works well. In hindsight, I would have gone bigger if I had the cash, space and experience. I also would have used 6" pipe instead of 4". Grizzly also has good prices on the blast gates and adapters. I got the cheap clear hose. I should have forked out a bit more cash for the heavier duty hose. I used PVC sched 40 and have not grounded it. I have not seen a need for it yet. The plumbing ended up costing more than the DC. I got a separator free with my DC. It works great. I would suggest it. It stops the small pieces of wood that get in the system from hitting the impellers. I also use the DC for vacuuming the floor and tools. The nails that get picked up (and toys) end up in the garbage can instead of the DC. There is a grid by the impeller so it also eliminated the clogs I would get at the DC (planer chips,scraps,toys)and the need to empty the DC bag. My only problem with the separator is that the holes are only 4". I hope to develop one with 6" holes some day. I see lots of people talking about one-micron bags. I use the 30-micron bag that came with it. I have an old furnace blower that I will use to make an air filtration system. Putting a lower micron bag on your DC will take away some efficiency. Although some will not agree with me, I believe a DC is designed for collecting bulk tool/wood dust, not cleaning the air. An air filter should be used for that. And,the DC is loud and annoying. I do not think I could deal with it being on for hours at a time.
      I used some of the pages below to learn about dust collection. I hope this helps.

      http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/
      http://www.woodmagazine.com/default....__7___47___121
      http://www.airhand.com/design.html
      http://cnets.net/%7Eeclectic/woodwor...eldDCDucts.htm

      Build your own?
      http://www3.sympatico.ca/caters/Wood/Cyclone.htm

      I want to try this some day.
      http://geocities.com/autodamper/

      Sounds dangerous
      http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/pvc.html

      Sorry for the book.
      Rob

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      • #4
        Rob C

        Most of the problem I've heard with a separator with 6" holes is that it tends to suck all of the chips out of the separator & on into the DC. By the way I have the same DC from back when it had 5" a entry into the impeller.

        I built a sheet metal enclosure to set on top of the bag rim & got to used diesel truck filters free from a trucking company & set them end to end inside the enclosure I can now feel the air flow at the throat plate of my contractor saw. The enclosure allows the air to flow from the outside of the filters to the inside & on up through the center & out the top. I have a heavy mill plastic garbage bag on the bottom with peel & stick foam seal tape where the bag clamps to the bag rim. I hope to have some pictures on my web site in the future.
        Sucking.....Whoosh....Yowl....Thrump

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        • #5
          Vibart2,

          Thanks for the info. I did not know about the 6" port. I was thinking about using a 55 gallon drum or one of the plastic 55 gallon Pepsi syrup containers I use as floats for my pool cover to make the separator. If I could do it again, assuming cash and space, I would go with a 2 stage cyclone. It would be overkill for one machine running at a time in a shop the size of mine but then again, overkill is not always a bad thing. [img]smile.gif[/img]

          I would love to see pics of your setup. Post them when you get them. Always looking for new ideas.

          Thanks,
          Rob

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          • #6
            Rob,

            Most of the posts indicate that putting a lower micron bag on your DC does not take away from it's efficiency. This is due to the fact that 1-3 micron bags have vastly more holes in them than the 30 micron type, it's just that these holes are smaller to capture the really dangerous 1-30 micron particles. Why switch on a DC and have it really pump out into the shop a cloud of dangerous 1-30 micron particles? For $19 from Grizzly, you can get a 1 micron bag that will capture this dust. Any remnants can be taken care of with an Air Cleaner.

            David

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            • #7
              I'm saving my pennies for an Onieda system. It's more expensive but after a ton of research, I think it's worth it. I also like the pleated filter that catches the really small stuff.

              Michael

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