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  • Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

    I've seen quite a bit of great advice on which all purpose blade to get if you could pick the blade of your dreams (perhaps a WWII or a TS2000, for example), but I wondered how the conversation changes if you ask instead what the ideal 2 blades would be - or are the great all purpose blades so good that it would be silly to get two good blades.


    Down the road I want to build a couple tables (a dining room table and a butcher block table) and I assume when I do that I'll want an excellent dedicated rip blade, would that change what kind of blade to get for now when I'd be doing more crosscutting, ripping of thin or soft stock and working with plywood?

    I don't mind switching blades when it is called for (but obviously don't mind skipping it either).

    One more detail, I think I am sold on the advantage of the thin kerf.

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    Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

    I have about a dozen blades but generally use a combination blade for everything and switch to a fine plywood blade only for crosscutting hardwood plywood. Those would be the two I would recommend. Even with the fine ply blade, I often have to make two passes - the first is a scoring pass to just get through the face veneer. Then I raise the blade and make the through-pass. This is a bit of a pain but gives a very reliably crisp edge. This is mostly needed on splintery woods like red oak ply... not so much on tighter face grain woods like maple ply.

    Rip blades are great but I find their main advantage is speed... I get almost the same rip edge (plenty good enough) but just have to feed the stock slower to allow the chips to clear.
    Last edited by Andy_M; 02-23-2010, 05:36 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

      How about 3 blades?

      1. 24T ripping
      2. 40 or 50T combo
      3. 80T crosscut.

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      • #4
        Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

        This one's easy...the 30T WWII TK and the Infinity 010-060 60T Hi-ATB blade are nearly a perfect compliment to each other, and offer extremely good performance across a very wide range. These two blades each offer a taste of the dedicated specialty blades but they don't suffer from the limited range that the specialty blades do. Either is suitable for most general purpose applications, but each has it's strength at the opposite extreme. I had this combination on my 22124 and thought the two were wonderful together, and is a combination I've suggested many times in lieu of a standard 3 blade set. My 80T Leitz blade and 24T Freud ripper sat dormant most of the time I had the 30T and 60T blades available. It's unlikely you'll encounter any situations (other than junk wood) where you'll want another blade...keep the stock blade for high risk stuff. Combining these two blades is like taking a typical 40T or 50T general purpose/combo blade and extending it's functional range of excellence into the regions where a dedicated blade is generally used. While a bit on the expensive side, I can't give a higher recommendation than this combo for your saw for the tasks you described. They should cover all your bases with flying colors.

        The 30T WWII will cut nearly as cleanly as the 40T...it's very difficult to tell the cuts apart, but when you start ripping thicker materials, it's nearly as efficient as a 24T ripper...and it cuts cleaner than any 24T ripper up to ~ 3". While it's not known as a great crosscutter, it can give respectable crosscuts in many applications, so it's not essential that it be changed out if you don't feel like it.

        The Infinity 010-060 is a great compliment to the 30T WWII. Where the 30T WWII is weak (ultra fine crosscuts, ply, etc), the 010-060 is at it's best. The Hi-ATB grind offers superior crosscuts, superior plywood cuts, but the geometry also allows it to rip very cleanly to ~ 5/4". It doesn't rip as efficiently as the 30T (or a 40T), but it will rip well in most common thicknesses, so it also doesn't have to be changed out most of the time if you don't feel like it. The 010-060 is also very versatile in what type saw it can be used on...it's an excellent CMS, RAS, or SCMS blade as well as being terrific in the table saw.
        Last edited by hewood; 02-24-2010, 12:45 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

          Originally posted by Ing View Post
          How about 3 blades?

          1. 24T ripping
          2. 40 or 50T combo
          3. 80T crosscut.
          4. Dado Stack

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          • #6
            Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

            What interesting responses!

            The Dado set goes without saying - I wasn't counting it (in fact I bought one on a previous recomendation of Hewood). I also bought the $20 Freud Avanti on Hewood's rec, that seemed like a good tide me over blade and one that could then become a "cut through stuff I don't want to use the good blade on" blade when I did eventually upgrade.

            The idea of 30T and 60T set up is appealing, (although so is the idea of going for 3 blades over several years).

            Hmm, lots to think about. Good thing I'm not in a rush.

            Hugh

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            • #7
              Re: Which 2 blades would be ideal for the R4511

              Hewood knows blades as well as anyone!

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