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  • #46
    ooooooooops!!! LOL! Forgot about that....
    I put it all back together better than before. There\'s lots of leftover parts.

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    • #47
      man o man is this guy for real? if he is that concerned about accruracy he should be looking into the proper tools for the job as in shears and mills the kind of tools made for metal not wood. I just got my 3650 and it says if you use it for other than wood as in metal it does void the warrenty. So dude if your worried about that go buy the right tools for the job. I have been a metal worker / welder for over 20 years and I would re design what ever your building to where all the sides and the top (or bottom ) would be tigged or migged together and have only one side removable for access. Heck just weld in a couple lugs to tap to hold the bolts and call it done. sheesh

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      • #48
        Holy threadjacking.....

        LOL. At least I got lots of people reading my thread.

        I will be buying a TS3650 the end of this month. It will be housed in its own "mini-shed" with a floor 1" higher than patio (to avoid water damage). Finalizing a design the wife will approve. She has lots of projects for me so it was relatively easy to get approval on the TS3650. Thanks to everyone!

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        • #49
          mpiotro: Congrats on a great saw! That said, before you cut the aluminum on it, you may want to prevent galling against the aluminum fence and the cast iron top. One thing that may work for the aluminum job is to go to Sam's Club (or your alternative) and buy some of the 3M clear packing tape. Cover the surfaces (table and fence) and squeegee it down. It will prevent galling and is very slick. If not slick enough, throw a coat of Johnson's wax on it. If you are going to continually cut aluminum on it, I would recommend silicon car wax for the table top (not recommended for wood because it screws up the stain/paint afterwards. Also don't use it if you're going to paint the aluminum unless you clean it with Prep-Sol or some other automotive recommended prepaint solvent).
          Don't envy you moving the saw back and forth, or picking the aluminum out of your cheeks and forearms (been there, done that), but for your own sake, please wear eye protection! Luck
          Practicing at practical wood working

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          • #50
            Gofor,
            I don't blame you for being confused. mpiotro (the thresd starter) isn't the guy who wants to cut aluminum.
            That's yldouright who hijacked the thread and thankfully hasn't been heard from lately.
            Lorax
            "Did you put the yellow key in the switch?" TOD 01/09/06

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            • #51
              GOFOR, that tape on the fence will make your finished cut 1/128" short. ROTFLMAO
              info for all: http://www.hoistman.com http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/index....wwtoolinfoforu --- "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me."

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              • #52
                My Bad!

                First: mpiotro: Forgive me for casting aspersions at you!! Its a great saw and you will be Much happier cutting wood with it!!

                Second: Mr. Lorax, Thank You for making me see the error of my ways. The advantage of my mental condition is that everyday is a brand-new adventure!! So, who IS on First base??? Wait, that wasn't the question was it? Oh well, nevermind.

                Third: PaPaDan, You are absolutely correct!! Why, that would be almost .008"!! I guess I assumed (yeah, I know what that means, too) with the accuracy concerns that he (yldouright) would be using a 0.0001" graduated depth mic to measure the blade-to-fence clearance.

                Silly me!!
                Practicing at practical wood working

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Gofor
                  Second: Mr. Lorax, Thank You for making me see the error of my ways. The advantage of my mental condition is that everyday is a brand-new adventure!! and we get to meet new friends every day, So, who IS on First base??? That is correct.
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                  Lorax
                  "Did you put the yellow key in the switch?" TOD 01/09/06

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                  • #54
                    " ...So, who IS on First base???... "

                    Don't you mean; WHAT is first base??
                    "When we build let us think we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work that our descendants will thank us for, and let us think, as we lay stone upon stone, that a time is to come when these stones will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, "See! This our fathers did for us."
                    John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)

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                    • #55
                      Who's on first!

                      Originally posted by Bob D.
                      " ...So, who IS on First base???... " Yes

                      Don't you mean; WHAT is first base??
                      No. What is the name of the second baseman.

                      Abbott and Costello's


                      "Who's on First?"


                      (Complete Text)

                      Abbott: Alright, now whaddya want?
                      Costello: Now look, I'm the head of the sports department. I gotta know the baseball players' names.
                      Do you know the guys' names?
                      Abbott: Oh sure.
                      Costello: So you go ahead and tell me some of their names.
                      Abbott: Well, I'll introduce you to the boys. You know sometimes nowadays they give ballplayers peculiar names.
                      Costello: You mean funny names.
                      Abbott: Nicknames, pet names, like Dizzy Dean -
                      Costello: His brother Daffy -
                      Abbott: Daffy Dean -
                      Costello: And their cousin!
                      Abbott: Who's that?
                      Costello: Goofy!
                      Abbott: Goofy, huh? Now let's see. We have on the bags - we have Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.
                      Costello: That's what I wanna find out.
                      Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third -
                      Costello: You know the fellows' names?
                      Abbott: Certainly!
                      Costello: Well then who's on first?
                      Abbott: Yes!
                      Costello: I mean the fellow's name!
                      Abbott: Who!
                      Costello: The guy on first!
                      Abbott: Who!
                      Costello: The first baseman!
                      Abbott: Who!
                      Costello: The guy playing first!
                      Abbott: Who is on first!
                      Costello: Now whaddya askin' me for?
                      Abbott: I'm telling you Who is on first.
                      Costello: Well, I'm asking YOU who's on first!
                      Abbott: That's the man's name.
                      Costello: That's who's name?
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
                      Abbott: Who.
                      Costello: The guy on first.
                      Abbott: Who!
                      Costello: The first baseman.
                      Abbott: Who is on first!
                      Costello: Have you got a contract with the first baseman?
                      Abbott: Absolutely.
                      Costello: Who signs the contract?
                      Abbott: Well, naturally!
                      Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?
                      Abbott: Every dollar. Why not? The man's entitled to it.
                      Costello: Who is?
                      Abbott: Yes. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.
                      Costello: Who's wife?
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: All I'm tryin' to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.
                      Abbott: Oh, no - wait a minute, don't switch 'em around. What is on second base.
                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.
                      Abbott: Who is on first.
                      Costello: I don't know.
                      Abbott: He's on third - now we're not talkin' 'bout him.
                      Costello: Now, how did I get on third base?
                      Abbott: You mentioned his name!
                      Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?
                      Abbott: No - Who's playing first.
                      Costello: Never mind first - I wanna know what's the guy's name on third.
                      Abbott: No - What's on second.
                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.
                      Abbott: Who's on first.
                      Costello: I don't know.
                      Abbott: He's on third.
                      Costello: Aaah! Would you please stay on third base and don't go off it?
                      Abbott: What was it you wanted?
                      Costello: Now who's playin' third base?
                      Abbott: Now why do you insist on putting Who on third base?
                      Costello: Why? Who am I putting over there?
                      Abbott: Yes. But we don't want him there.
                      Costello: What's the guy's name on third base?
                      Abbott: What belongs on second.
                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.
                      Abbott: Who's on first.
                      Costello: I don't know.
                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!
                      Costello: You got an outfield?
                      Abbott: Oh yes!
                      Costello: The left fielder's name?
                      Abbott: Why.
                      Costello: I don't know, I just thought I'd ask you.
                      Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell you.
                      Costello: Alright, then tell me who's playin' left field.
                      Abbott: Who is playing fir-
                      Costello: STAY OUTTA THE INFIELD! I wanna know what's the left fielder's name.
                      Abbott: What's on second.
                      Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.
                      Abbott: Who's on first.
                      Costello: I don't know.
                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!
                      Costello: The left fielder's name?
                      Abbott: Why.
                      Costello: Because!
                      Abbott: Oh, he's center field.
                      Costello: Look, you gotta pitcher on this team?
                      Abbott: Now wouldn't this be a fine team without a pitcher.
                      Costello: The pitcher's name.
                      Abbott: Tomorrow.
                      Costello: You don't wanna tell me today?
                      Abbott: I'm tellin' you now.
                      Costello: Then go ahead.
                      Abbott: Tomorrow.
                      Costello: What time?
                      Abbott: What time what?
                      Costello: What time tomorrow are you going to tell me who's pitching?
                      Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching. Who is on fir-
                      Costello: I'll break your arm if you say Who's on first. I wanna know what's the pitcher's name.
                      Abbott: What's on second.
                      Costello: I don't know.
                      Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!
                      Costello: You got a catcher?
                      Abbott: Oh, absolutely.
                      Costello: The catcher's name.
                      Abbott: Today.
                      Costello: Today. And Tomorrow's pitching.
                      Abbott: Now you've got it.
                      Costello: All we've got is a couple of days on the team.
                      Abbott: Well, I can't help that.
                      Costello: Well, I'm a catcher too.
                      Abbott: I know that.
                      Costello: Now suppose that I'm catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and their heavy hitter gets up.
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: Tomorrow throws the ball. The batter bunts the ball. When he bunts the ball, me being a good catcher, I wanna throw the guy
                      out at first base. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?
                      Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.
                      Costello: I don't even know what I'm talkin' about!
                      Abbott: Well, that's all you have to do.
                      Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: Now who's got it?
                      Abbott: Naturally!
                      Costello: If I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta catch it. Now who caught it?
                      Abbott: Naturally!
                      Costello: Who caught it?
                      Abbott: Naturally.
                      Costello: Who?
                      Abbott: Naturally!
                      Costello: Naturally.
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.
                      Abbott: NO, NO, NO! You throw the ball to first base and Who gets it?
                      Costello: Naturally.
                      Abbott: That's right. There we go.
                      Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.
                      Abbott: You don't!
                      Costello: I throw it to who?
                      Abbott: Naturally.
                      Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!
                      Abbott: You're not saying it that way.
                      Costello: I said I throw the ball to Naturally.
                      Abbott: You don't - you throw the ball to Who?
                      Costello: Naturally!
                      Abbott: Well, say that!
                      Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING! I throw the ball to who?
                      Abbott: Naturally.
                      Costello: Ask me.
                      Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?
                      Costello: Naturally.
                      Abbott: That's it.
                      Costello: SAME AS YOU!! I throw the ball to first base and who gets it?
                      Abbott: Naturally!
                      Costello: Who has it?
                      Abbott: Naturally!
                      Costello: HE BETTER HAVE IT! I throw the ball to first base. Whoever it is grabs the ball, so the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What, What throws it to I Don't Know, I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow - triple play.
                      Abbott: Yes.
                      Costello: Another guy gets up - it's a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know. He's on third and I don't give a darn!
                      Abbott: What was that?
                      Costello: I said I don't give a darn!
                      Abbott: Oh, that's our shortstop.
                      Provided for your pleasure by Larry Tomassini


                      Lorax
                      "Did you put the yellow key in the switch?" TOD 01/09/06

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                      • #56
                        Thanks, I needed that! I saw a report on the news that said laughing is great for your heart. I think you just gave me an added year of life!! I hadn't heard that in years
                        Practicing at practical wood working

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                        • #57
                          Thanks Lorax, I know how the dialog between them went, I meant that since his memory was so short ( "we get to meet new friends every day " ) that he would not even remember what a first base even was, let alone who was on first.
                          "When we build let us think we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work that our descendants will thank us for, and let us think, as we lay stone upon stone, that a time is to come when these stones will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, "See! This our fathers did for us."
                          John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)

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                          • #58
                            Not to mention the first home run!

                            But I bet he remembers the first time he "got to first base".
                            Lorax
                            "Did you put the yellow key in the switch?" TOD 01/09/06

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                            • #59
                              Lorax
                              Look at your last few posts. How can you make any assertions about hijacking a thread? I'm cancelling your enrollment in the Wendelstadt School for your own good. I have a hunch you would be a very VERY bad umpire and I would fear for your health in an environment where you actually had decision making power

                              johnyreb
                              I should suggest that you read the whole thread before posting advice which has already been rejected with an explanation but since you can't even spell your own name right, how can I expect better from you?

                              Papadan has made two correct observations:
                              1. The TS2400 has a graphite table so there is no point in using any magnetic base measuring tools for that saw.
                              2. Tape has width.

                              For the record, I found a brand new in the box dremel 285T6 for $20 so I bought it. It is an interesting tool and I am reading up on projects that were done with it. I still don't know what kind of guide setup would not be scarred by this tool so my earlier concerns about the accuracy achievable using it are still unaddressed. I am also looking at a used Shopsmith for $600 which appears to be in excellent condition. If anyone here has any experience with this tool I'm sure I will need your input. It looks like a very capable and accurate machine but I imagine the learning curve will be quite steep so I will more than likely need some hand holding.

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                              • #60
                                Here's a decision that wasn't hard to make.

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                                Lorax
                                "Did you put the yellow key in the switch?" TOD 01/09/06

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