Cactusman has been tossing sawdust with the woods for years.Look at his join date;)
I have seen a bunch of this stuff done and I was not impressed.
good lord nhmaster.... are you really advising cpvc? that is for low end trailers when you might as well cause its already there. copper. or, if you want to save money, pex. I don't plumb, i do clogs, and this is clear even to me.
No, I'm not recommending cpvc, I hate the stuff and up here it has a nasty habit if freezing and cracking. I was just pointing out that in Florida a whole lot of plumbers are using it and for some reason prefer it to pex. Then again if any of you have been to Florida and checked out how they plumb down there you would be absolutly horrified. I think it has a lot to do with the imported labor force.
Not much a fan of plastic for water in general, but crimps compared to solvent weld....mmmmm....I dunno.
Ducky,, You hav'nt joined the PEX revolution.?:rolleyes:
I've used it enough to know I hate working with it, I started using it on basenoard before our code allowed it on potable when the majority was the Wirsbo expansion type.
The process seemed rediculous, trying to hold the pipe, fitting & tool while expanding it...then wondering if you held it long enough to compress securely over the fitting.
I did some reading on both PEX & CPVC...both have been in use for about the same amount of time (40+ years), but PEX has been used most of the time in Europe, CPVC here.
I could be wrong, but I think the overall health & sanitary standards here are higher...a wet spot or dampness in a basement might not be as much a big deal in Europian countries, so I'll favor something that has more time in THIS country,
Bottom line, the crimps just scare the crap outta me, the constricted fitting on the expansion type may be OK for heat...but it seems like it could be an issue on potable over many years with mineral or calcium buildup.
I don't do any new construction (thank God)...so it's not too often I'm in a situation where I could lose the job over the price of copper.
I just wish code hadn't allowed plastic crap on potable in the first place, sad, very sad.
NH...I agree with what you say about politics in plumbing...
I think MFG's see the HUGE market in DIY, then push their influence with politicians to get anything approved that might make a homeowner jump to HD & Lowes to avoid soldering or...paying a plumber.