After you hear about it, I'm sure you'll agree.
I mentioned earlier in the week that I was working in a bad neighborhood, and you'd think I'd wake up to what I know for a fact about dealing with people like this. The lowest of the low and for some reason I thought testing the waters was okay.
Rental Property, old lady landlord.
She's optimistic to get this tub set. I get there and this tenant tries to get me to do everything down to replacing the toilet paper roll. Rough, extremely rough people...I'm wondering what I'm smoking as of late to even think this was a good idea, but for the sake of sounding stupid,
money. I thought I'd squeeze a call in between others and it backfired. The money would of been nice but it wasn't out of desperation. I just like to fill out a schedule and give everyone *including this one particular situation* a chance.
Before I even start, gas leak at the stove. I fix it and she gets the bill, pays it. I tell her I'll put a half a day in the job tomorrow (friday) and she said that I could come down and "I'll pay you each day."
That's where this all unfolds. Last night she told me she was going to bed early feeling sick and all, I tell her the job is expanding. A price of $700 was calculated by me initially to get the tub set.
Well, floor is so messed up and I told her that I'm going to have to rebuild the floor to within reason just to set the tub. I ask if she wants me to go past the toilet and she agrees. I get the floor taken care of, it's not mentioning how deplorable this job is but the floor I laid down is top notch from the way it was, and done right.
I put Luan underlayment down and drilled a new hole for the flange, set it with new stainless steel screws. Solid as all get out and tons better than before.
I get a call this morning at 9:30 from the landlord asking me where I'm at. I told her instead of putting 4 hours yesterday I put in 6.5 and told her that I TOLD the tenant I'd be coming there late since I worked late.
This woman goes off and comments about me not being there, disregards the fact I worked more than I told her I would, and she's asking if I'm a licensed plumber, qualified, reputable.........WTF?
I told her that I encountered problems on this job, that is why I wanted her to come up last night to see my progress. She took this as strange but I do this so people know how the charges associate with work done.
I ask again.....I'd like to get paid up to a certain point because I know customers don't like big numbers and I don't like them either. In the jist of this conversation like a dumbass I offered to lower my rate $10/hour since I was doing work that's heading towards 20 hours quite easily.
I told her that I'd like her to come up, she agreed even though she grumbled about why she had to.......and she didn't show up. Almost 3 hours later, no show.
Now, she told me she'd pay daily...twice she's refused payment and pulls a no show when she's supposed to meet me at her property.
I packed my stuff up, left.
The floor is done, but I never set the tub, never set the walls, never replaced the faucet. <<<That statement right there is going to be a pretty good sized task because there is absolutely no access to the tub drain.
It's going to have to be jigged and set the tub hoping (and through numerous failed attempts) bringing that tub in and out of that bathroom and getting it lined up. Absolutely no access from sidewalls or below since it's over a shallow dirt crawlspace. Back wall is a kitchen sink cabinet, massive work to access, will never be easy.
Only way is the way I just mentioned and what sucks is the tub drain runs directly center and back under the tub. I was going to have to S-trap it because there's no vent and the drain is low. Not only against code but I considered the task extremely difficult not having any ability to get to it from another angle.
This weighs heavily with me and even though it would be impossible for someone to see it to say it was a code violation, I'm putting myself in a vulnerable position. Not only that, but I'd say it would of been at least an hour, hour and a half to just get the damn tub set dealing with mixing mortar and all, doing it right.
When I went to open the box for the tub/shower walls...this was the final straw. It was those paper thin walls and I assumed they were preformed, sturdy. This changed everything because the walls were destroyed from leftover glue on drywall, drywall ripped off, holes in the wall and on top all of this, faucet has to be replaced.
Going into today, she owed me $422.50 at the reduced rate. I put in 3 more hours and now I'm already nearing the $700 mark we initially talked about.
To put a guess on the final tally....double the above number and an entire weekend dealing with filthy people, filthy living, and a landlord that is taking pot shots at my credibility as a professional.
What I've done essentially with the exception of setting a new closet flange was be a carpenter/handyman.
In a realistic point of view, I understand that the task at hand in the value of the work is substantially less per hour.
If I was to gauge it....possibly $30 hour tops. I have roughly 10 hours in his job so if it ever went to a court of law, I'd be hustling for $300 in the true sense of the situation.
It is truly worth it to leave, knowing I'm giving her my work of 10 hours for free, no cost to her to bail and get away from this situation because it doesn't matter if she agrees to all of it; she's shown in less than 24 hours that there's a problem and it's not me.
Keep your word and I always keep mine, that's why my phone always rings. Am I expensive? Of course, but you don't double spend after I've been at your home.
This lady hasn't called yet, she's going to and I'm going to bark at her like she did at me this morning for no reason.
I'm telling her that I'm not charging for my time and I quit because I do not trust your ability to pay.
Then I'll reference the statement SHE made to pay me daily, then the fact she was giving me **** for starting late when I put in almost twice the hours I did the day before.
This woman, the tenant was in a huge rush to get this job done, and what I'm doing is going to be very disruptive which is what I want. I could easily see myself being gullable like I was at one time in life, do the job in its entirity and then find out the hard way that I ignored the red flags and warning signs.
I blame myself for not saying no initially when she spun the address off to me, knowing I don't work in these neighborhoods. This woman also wanted me to put all the trim back on and around the windows, around the toilet, make modifications to the shower walls themselves which just eats up time spent.
Of course she wanted all this....she's not going to pay from the way her actions were dictating.
My back is killing me from the extensive work I did on that floor, moving that tub in and out just getting it positioned. There is TONS of work to do to get this tub in and I know now she'll have to pay through the nose to get it in...or deal with more nonsense.
Being a handyman riding around in a plumbing truck working for free doesn't hurt as bad as being a plumber and being put in a position to give away free plumbing that offers permanent solutions to problems given the way I care so much for correct installation...and let some scumlord think they've beat another tradesman down.
I'm the :loser: for telling people constantly on these forums not to work for these types of people if you don't have to. I was a landlord to 3 units for 9 years but I never subbed out work; I did it all.
I just saw opportunity to put money in my hands to purchase a gun and the gun "almost" kicked back and hit me in the face.
Please remember my words next time you see red flags popping up...stop drop and roll and GTFO of there because it's better to lose a little than lose a lot.....especially knowing you just gave the ability for someone to shower and bath as an unknown donation to the community.
Sorry for the long winded story; I tried to keep it brief but I usually hammer it out there so I don't have to answer a ton of questions of why why why I did something intentionally. I'm sure from the above...I did what's best for me, no one else and I don't care how mad this woman or tenant gets,
I'm the better for leaving and going to the next job. Phone is always ringing. :clapping: