I knew what he was talking about.
Thick with sarcasm...
having installed well over 10k toilets, there is no need for anything other than the rubber washers.
sure, it's better if they would supply a second nut and washer for "double nutting" the tank, but either way it works without any glue.
as far as i know, closet bolts, tank bolts are not suppose to be anything other than brass, or stainless, non corrosive. of course who actually enforces this part of the code:rolleyes:
I have put in solid brass tank bolts with washers on both sides without any silicone and they have not leaked but In the last apartment I worked on we had CRAPPY briggs toilets and they only had one washer and we siliconed all of them....but the guy who was in charge of that was kind of an idiot....I worked for another company where we used solid brass bolts with washers on both sides and the journeyman there never used silicone. So i definitely agree with not needing it. I Don't even think the guy who told me to use silicone was a licensed plumber because he told other people he was a "gasfitter" but the people at that company told me he failed his plumbing exam but passed his gas exam. Needless to say I didn't take a whole lot more advice from him after learning stupid crap like that...considering two other journeyman plumbers working for that company told me it was a no-no.
I am ok with the valve being over a bit. Saves work if the customer wants a wider toilet in the future. I have had to decline installations because the valve was directly behind the toilet and there wasnt enough room without moving the plumbing in the wall.
I've never needed silicone on any of the thousands of toilets I've installed or repaired. I was just saying if your in a jam it works! I think I had a hair line crack in the tank I scraped it with a 1/2" fitting brush but could not see a crack.. I have seen several that were cracked... but the time I used the silicone I could see no crack but it always leaked after 10 tries with new tank to bowl bolts I used the silicone just to get the home owner through the weekend.... but it never leaked after that... been years.
just saying "in a bind" silicone works.
I've never used silicone on toilet bolts and mine don't leak either.
However . . . if someone wanted the security of a lot more seal, plumbers putty is not the way to go. There's a much more high-tech solution. Just get a can of expanding foam and squirt it all over those babies. Guaranteed. Heck, spray it between tank and bowl while you're at it and that will make tank and bowl permanently sealed.
And why hasn't anyone ever thought of expanding foam to seal the bowl to the flange, too? What could be more perfect?
The expanding foam killed me Herk. Don't worry Rick, it's just one thread. Your "fortress of solitude" isn't coming down because of a few laughs.
I've had to use foam to hold toilets to the floor in some Irish pubs but don't tell anybody that :p